Budget Thursday: Reversible Woven Cami

I did not realize it until I found this particular reversible camisole, but WHBM has an entire line of reversible clothes, including camisoles, tops, and dresses in regular and plus sizes. Now, while this can be great — particularly if you’re traveling — I would note that if you’re dealing with a print on one side and a dark solid on the other side, you’re probably best advised to wear the print side first to avoid the inevitable deodorant stains — then wear the dark side second. In any event, I think this woven camisole is cute, and I like both the polka dot and the stripey side, and I also like the way that the reverse side peeks out a bit at the bottom. The pictured cami is $49. Reversible Woven Cami

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  1. Just wanted to say thanks for all the creative toddler activity suggestions yesterday. Day got away from me, but I printed out all the suggestions and will be trying them out during my maternity leave.

  2. My 4 month old’s daycare sent a list home of all of the kid’s names in the infant class for valentine’s day. I was planning on getting the teachers a little something, but do people actually do cards/anything else for the other kids in the class? They’re infants…

    • That’s ridiculous! I can’t imagine a present that wouldn’t be a choking hazard. I’d send in a pack of heart stickers or maybe a decoration for the classroom and call it a day.

    • Boston Legal Eagle says:

      4 month olds will absolutely not notice or care. This is a gift from parents to parents, as my husband says. We got a similar list for my 21 month old’s class – I again think the kids won’t really care one way or the other, but do people start do class gifts at the toddler stage?

    • Nah, that’s kind of absurd. The reason my child goes to daycare is because I have other things to do besides craft projects I don’t enjoy. (Even at the toddler stage – our daycare is very good about not putting extra demands on parents. They might come home with a valentine for mommy and/ or daddy, but that’s about it.) I am very much not a craft person; I *am* a food person, though, and will occasionally make food for the daycare summer potluck, or thank-you cookies for the staff when kid graduates from one classroom to the next, but none of this is ever demanded of parents, explicitly or implicitly.

    • Jeffiner says:

      Thanks for reminding me to pick up some valentines this weekend! My kid’s daycare didn’t start holiday celebrations until they were in the two-year-old class. It seems like a waste for infants.

    • Nope. Just say no. Kids don’t care and I doubt that any of their parents care.

    • Anon in NYC says:

      No. I didn’t do them. I know one kid’s parents did and thought it was cute, but I certainly wasn’t going to spend any time doing them!

    • avocado says:

      I was surprised when my kid brought home valentines at age 2. We first did them the next year, when she was big enough to sign her name and write (copy) her classmates’ names on the envelopes. It was quite a chore.

    • I’m going to be the odd one out here. Obviously, don’t do it if you don’t want, but we always have and have had a lot of fun with it. Last year, we did applesauce pouches and printed labels that said “You’re my main squeeze” to put on them. One of the cutest ones we’ve received is a pair of socks with a note that said “You knock my socks off.” My daughter is two now and definitely understands the concept of giving and receiving. I’m thinking about getting some cheap books from the dollar store. I try my hardest at this stuff not to give candy. Last year one small holiday gift we gave to the class was animal finger puppets that I got inexpensively off Amazon. They were a huge hit.

      • NewMomAnon says:

        Temporary tattoos, bubbles, and stickers were super popular at that age. Band-aids too.

      • PregLawyer says:

        Yeah, we totally jump on the bandwagon for this. Usually we just get valentines and stickers. 4 months old is obviously too young to get it, but some of the older babies in the class might be at the point where they can enjoy the little cards.

        • NewMomAnon says:

          When kiddo was just over 1, she fell in love with the little cards to the point where we had to take inventory of them each night for weeks, and if one got lost, she had to find it before she would go to bed. She slept with them under her pillow. It was adorable.

          • AwayEmily says:

            this is SO CUTE.

          • Love this!! Around that age, my daughter started really liking the cards, too (still does). We would often get paint samples cards from stores. She could spend a ton of time putting the cards an a random old envelope and then taking them back out. They’re also a good way to work on colors, although she was pretty young for that when we did this.

    • Nope, take a pass without regret here. You might get some, but nobody will think anything of your lack of participation. I didn’t send them with my kiddo until she was in preschool. But now that I have a younger one, she does valentines too (because Big Sister is doing them). My younger one is in the young toddler room (15-24 months), so she’s sending in valentines that come with stickers and she’ll be scribbling on them.

      For infants I’d skip entirely, unless the infant room went to like, 18 months at which point they like stickers.

    • My dog is at a doggy birthday party at daycare today where they are serving “pupcakes”! I briefly wondered if I should bring the birthday boy a toy and realized the madness should stop somewhere. I think valentines for infants is in the same box as doggy birthday parties. Adorable but not necessary. If you enjoy it, do it. If it stresses you out, don’t.

    • Anonymous says:

      I got an individual pack of boogie wipes for my child in the infant class on year with a cute saying on it. Very practical present.

      • Sabba says:

        Don’t actually do this, but since the gifts would be for the parents anyway, why not just blatantly own that and show up with a bevy of mini bottles of alcohol for the infants to pass out as valentines?

    • Emily S. says:

      Us, too. I am buying Sandra Boynton board books on Amazon because (1) they were about $2.50, (2) Prime could have them here within a day, and I didn’t have to go to Target.
      When my older daughter was in the infant room, the teachers bought them red mylar heart balloons. We tied it to her high chair and let her pull on it, punch it, stare at her reflection, etc — HUGE hit! If I had the time to pick up balloons before drop off, that’s what I would do.

  3. Baby CB dropped from 60th to 30th percentile. I was just at the general weigh-in clinic so I didn’t get a sense of how worried I should be about this. He was 75th percentile at birth but I’ve only been back at work a few weeks and he really struggled with the bottle at the beginning so I’m hoping it is just a blip. He’s drinking between 10-12 ounces during the day when I’m away but eats for hours when I’m home. We’re also working on adding in solids (he likes plain coconut milk yoghurt – little weirdo!) Upping my pumping and oat consumption in hopes that might help.

    • That happened to us when our LO started daycare. She’s stayed at the lower percentile but is happy and healthy. Try upping your solids but if the pedi isn’t worried, I wouldn’t be either.

      • Thanks! I’m really struggling with stress at the moment and I’m beating myself up for not taking him to be weighed sooner. I left him with grandpa and 14 oz of milk so we’ll see how he did today.

        • mascot says:

          If he’s having plenty of wet and dirty diapers, otherwise eating well and hitting his milestones, I’d not worry too much. Also, did his height percentile change very much? He may have had a growth spurt and hasn’t caught up in weight. This can also happen when they become mobile and start crawling.

          • Yes, this was always my benchmark too. Plenty of wet and dirty diapers = body is working just fine and baby is growing/changing.

          • avocado says:

            Yes, this happened to my kid when she started crawling, despite the fact that she was at the time a voracious eater. She has been on the low end of the weight-for-age charts ever since. Our pediatrician said it was nothing to worry about as long as she was developing normally and making wet and dirty diapers.

    • Anonymous says:

      I wouldn’t worry about it. When they are that little they tend to move around on the charts a lot; my son certainly did. And those scales aren’t always calibrated that well – when you only weigh 11 pounds being off a few ounces can make a big difference.

    • Anonymous says:

      Scales can vary as well. Kids can have a big poo or pee and be on a new scale and see a big difference that really isn’t a ‘true’ difference/loss. My LC wouldn’t consider it an issue (unless it was like 90th percentile to 10 percentile level drop), until she had a few times weighing on the same scale. Look for the broader trajectory. If baby isn’t eating well and continues to drop, I would be concerned. Otherwise, continue to introduce solids if you are there and encourage caregiver to consider smaller more frequent feeds. Every baby is different – I had one twin that would drink an 8 ounce bottle and then be satisfied for a much longer time than his brother who would only drink 5 oz max at a time so he needed more frequent feedings.

    • FTMinFL says:

      First, don’t worry about this as long as he is having adequate wet and dirty diapers.

      Second, if you want to worry about it, ensure that the same growth chart was used to determine percentiles every time he was measured. It is up to the practice whether they use WHO, CDC or some other chart, as well as whether they report weight, weight-for-length, or weight-for-height (yes, they’re different) percentiles. Many practices switch without telling you at 12 months. Little people do tend to move around on the charts a good bit due to varying timing of growth spurts, bowel movements, etc. You can always take him back to re-weigh (ensure consistent scale, growth chart, and state of dress) if it will ease your mind.

      I have a kiddo in the third percentile and have become an expert on growth charts, risks, criteria for supplementation, etc. and I wholeheartedly believe that if you think he’s ok, he’s probably ok. Keep bringing him to his well check ups and your doctor will address anything concerning.

      Of course, just because I mastered the low end of the spectrum and dropping percentiles, baby #2 is now in the 89th percentile. Motherhood will always keep you guessing!

      • I’m in the UK so they are all WHO scales but someone mentioned that they may not account for breastfed babies who don’t have as consistent rate of growth.

    • I’d definitely get the pediatrician’s opinion, but he’ll probably say that wet and dirty diapers are the thing to watch as others mentioned.

      Weighing him when you’ve only been back 2 weeks is a stressful data point to get. I don’t think my guy was eating well at that time, either. He still only eats 5oz per bottle during the day, but that is about how much he eats at his other feedings too, I think.

      • Yeah, I’m hoping the health visitor (paediatric nurse who visits you at home) will materialise at some point. He had 14oz while I was away today and seemed really content throughout the day. It is a different scale every time (baby clinics and the portable scale the health visitors use) so there might be some inconsistency there.

    • How old is the baby? My kids are happy healthy 18 months and 4.5 and have had WILD fluctuation in weight percentile (and even more wild when you look at weight-for-height becuase they’re tall). My younger one was born 96% and was 30%, 50%, 80%, 50%, 40%, and settled somewhere more like 50-60% around age 1 and that’s where she is now. Watch wet and dirty diapers. Ask your ped if s/he’s concerned (mine never was). My older one was 99% at birth and has been 75-80% (and 98% for height) since she was a toddler.

      Mine dropped a lot when we introduced solids because they decided they wanted ONLY SOLIDS THANKS and milk because sort of a struggle.

    • Edna Mazur says:

      My oldest started out at about 60% at birth and over the first year kept dropping. He is now a skinny 4 year old. We got lots of questions about how much he was eating for the first year that we didn’t have for the others (cause they were giant babies with abundant rolls). I think the ped just had to make sure he was getting adequate nutrition but never guilted us or seemed concerned. Once he hit 18 months or two years or something, the doctor just pointed out that he is slender, he has tons of energy and looks healthy, so he is obviously eating enough. Some kids just are skinny.

  4. Anonymous says:

    For those of you who are religiously observant, how do you keep your holy day (Fri/Sat/Sun, depending on your faith) and balance it with children’s activities and sports? So many activities are scheduled not only during worship times, but also can easily consume entire weekends.

    • Anonymous says:

      We don’t do birthday parties/sports/activities on Sunday mornings. I’m sure it’s more challenging for those who do full day or multi-day observances like sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. We do make occasional exceptions for visiting friends/close family etc but those are pretty rare.

    • shortperson says:

      i grew up this way and it was fine bc most of our friends were within the community and i attended a private religious school. the only sport i played was through the jcc which took care of scheduling to avoid saturdays. i think it’s extremely hard to maintain if your community of friends is more diverse. or if you care about real sports.

    • This is where being Catholic feels like cheating… we have the option to go to mass at six different times over the weekend, so we just adjust to make it work with whatever’s going on. And Catholicism doesn’t emphasize observing the Sabbath like other religions do for some reason.

      • Edna Mazur says:

        Yup. My kids are too little for this problem but growing up we had Saturday night, Sunday as early as 7, Sunday evenings became a thing too.

        But my parents just made it a priority. Church is first. If we had a soccer tournament on Sunday morning, Saturday mass had to happen. If we were totally booked over the weekend we had to make church happen. It just did.

        Now I’m in more ecumenical situation where we attend about three different churches on the regular, and sometimes pop in on others if our schedules is weird. That helps but I realize it isn’t for everyone.

      • anonforthis says:

        Cross-posting…but I think my son is taking the “Catholic” approach, even though he is not Catholic:

        Different perspective, my oldest son is religious (Christian) and the rest of the family is not. He wants to go to church every week, but sometimes he simply can’t unless he would quit basketball. And given that he has D1 schools showing interest in him as a freshman, that seems like a terrible idea for his future. He is old enough to balance it himself, including spending more time at church during the week when he is free, and I am proud of him for that. I don’t see why parents couldn’t take a similar attitude and approach

  5. POSITA says:

    This suggestion reminds me of something Joey Potter would have worn.

  6. layered bob says:

    As with so many religious things, there is no easy way, you just have to do it. We do not participate in anything on Sundays – no work, no sports or activities. The best thing is to have lots of friends who have the same rules (even if they don’t have exactly the same beliefs – we’re Protestant but hang with Catholics and Mormons who also don’t work/sports on Sundays).

    We’ve organized informal sports/activities with people from church on Saturdays as an additional way for our kids to socialize. Since they mostly hang out with kids who have the same restrictions as them, they don’t really know what they’re missing by not participating in Sunday activities.

    As they get older, they might – when I was a teenager I was pretty annoyed I couldn’t go to movies, my dance class, or do homework on Sundays, but ultimately it is a choice/sacrifice you just have to make.

  7. layered bob says:

    Err, for anonymous at 9:45 am above; replying apparently doesn’t work on my phone.

  8. ToddlerMom says:

    I need advice on a childcare situation for my 19 month old toddler. Typically his grandparents watch him during the day while my husband and I are at work. He’s never been in day care or with a nanny. Only rarely has he been left alone with a babysitter, and those have been my close friends who have watched him. He loves people, has zero separation anxiety, but he has never been left to fend for himself in a group setting. The grandparents will be away for three weeks and I have to figure out alternate childcare for that time frame. Typically my husband and I would alternate taking off work and probably have my mom come to help out for a week or so. But this trip is happening during a particularly busy time for us at work, so that’s not going to be feasible this time. I am considering a short term nanny; seeing if a stay at home mom friend can watch him; adding him to a friend’s nanny share; or enrolling him in a new daycare for a couple months (it would end up being 2-3 months due to the timing of their trip and when we’d need to claim the spot). I’m not even sure if you can enroll in day care short term, but I will ask when I tour the facility tomorrow. (After being on the waitlist for 18 months, I got a call today that there is a slot available for him.) What do I do? Given the busy timing of work and grandparents being away, I need whatever option we set up to be rock solid. I know it’s unreasonable but I’m worried about traumatizing my toddler by putting him in a group setting when he’s not used to it, and also exposing him to all the germs when we don’t have any backup care available during this time period. I know how fortunate we are that our situation has worked so well up until this point and I want to make the right decision here.

    • Are you planning to continue with the current setup when the grandparents return from their trip? If you are at least considering moving him to daycare (now that there’s a spot), using daycare might make sense. Another benefit of daycare is that it won’t be closed (except for pre-planned holidays or teacher workdays). With a short-term nanny, SAHM or nanny-share you’re relying on one person, who could get sick or have something else come up. You can absolutely do daycare short-term but you’ll probably need to give them 30 days notice when/if you leave and you will probably give up your spot on the list when you leave (although if you don’t enroll him, you’ll give up the spot anyway). If the trip isn’t imminent, you could try out daycare and see how it goes – maybe start with mornings to ease your mind. This is a good age to start in a group setting I think.

      • ToddlerMom says:

        We aren’t planning to continue with daycare; once the grandparents return, we would go back to the usual arrangement. We have several months to work out a plan and I am inclined to enroll him to try it out. Money is not the primary consideration, so we’re fine to pay for a couple months of care even if he’s only going a couple part-days per week.

        • If you aren’t going to continue with daycare, and you won’t have much flexibility during that time due to work, I’d avoid daycare. I love daycare for a lot of reasons, but I agree that you’ll have a lot of transition and exposure to germs unnecessarily. Drop-offs will be tough for a first timer at that age (my veteran daycare, no real separation anxiety kids even struggled around that time). Depending on the time period, I’d ask around for a short term nanny, college student, or similar. Have a babysitter service or SAHM on backup, and maybe even research drop-in centers.

          • Meant to add that I can almost always find another sitter to cover a sick nanny, but I’ve had a much harder time finding last minute coverage for a sick kid. If you are relying on daycare, a fever can easily knock the kid out for three days (given their 24 hour rule), and you can’t drop off a sick kid with a SAHM, for instance. I’ve done daycare and nannies for my kids, and I usually assume a kid will miss at least one day or so a week when ramping up to daycare.

    • Anon in NYC says:

      First, any choice you make is going to be disruptive to your toddler because it will be a change. So I wouldn’t be too worried in particular about whether that setting is a daycare or a nanny share or a SAHM friend. The germ fear with daycare is real. It might be lesser with a nanny share or a SAHM, but your son will be around other kids more than usual, so you need to have a backup solution regardless. The upside of daycare is that it really is rock solid, and you’ll have a schedule of all planned closures so you can plan accordingly for those days.

      I don’t really think you can enroll in daycare for a 3-week period, although it might be worth looking into whether either you or your husband have some sort of backup childcare arrangement with a Bright Horizons or the like because it wouldn’t require any sort of commitment. The daycare that we first used required a months notice before you pulled your kid out. The preschool that we now send our daughter to requires 8 weeks. If you’re planning on 2-3 months though, you should be fine.

      If the window is really only 3 weeks, my preferences would be: adding him to a friend’s nanny share/SAHM friend, sending him to daycare, and short term nanny (in that order).

      If the window is more like 2-3 months, I would move daycare to the first choice, and nanny share/SAHM second.

      • ToddlerMom says:

        Part of the problem is that while the grandparents will only be gone for 3 weeks, the timing will be somewhat unpredictable as they will be traveling for the birth of another grandchild. So while we have a general idea of the dates, there’s some element of uncertainly and I feel like I need to plan for a couple weeks on either side of that window.

    • Anonymous says:

      Short term nanny or SAHM friend. You can have the person spend some time with kid while grandparents are still there to learn routine and get to know kid.

      • +1 I have hired a short term nanny before and it worked out as well as it could have. We used an agency we already trusted. For OP, I would go with whatever option seemed easier. If the SAHM friend already seems like a good fit and it would be easy to ask her, then do that. If you have a short term nanny option through a referral or trusted source and that seems easier to go that route, then do that. I think short term daycare would not work out as well. Illness is more likely to be an issue and probably a bigger transition to the group setting than staying in a smaller setting with more one on one time.

        • Oh, I should add that you should factor illness into the equation. If one caregiver is willing to watch your kid while your kid is sick, then I think that is a better option. It seems that kid illness strikes at absolutely the worst times for busy work periods. It is priceless to have a nanny (or SAHM, if she is cool with it) that doesn’t mind taking care of a kid that is sick with a cold or the flu or whatever germs they have picked up.

    • FTMinFL says:

      I would go with the short term nanny at your home. It will be the least disruptive option for the toddler because he will be in a known environment, just with an unknown person. It will also be the least disruptive option for you since you won’t have to juggle drop off/pick up and a more-disrupted toddler.

    • Short term nanny. Don’t rock too many boats at once.

      Longer term, you might want to think about getting your kid into some kind of part time daycare. My younger kid is the same age as yours and we started her in daycare part time at 15 months. She had a few weeks of adjusting/dropoff sadness but she RUNS into that place now and leaves me in the dust. New toys! Other kids! pizza day on wednesday! So much more fun than Boring Mom and Boring House. I hesitated because we had a good thing going with her babysitter/nanny but I wanted to get her more socialization (other than her siblings).

      • ToddlerMom says:

        I’ve thought about that and will consider enrolling him in preschool when he turns 2. The grandparents live in our building (they moved to our city to watch our son full-time) and we’re all committed to the current setup for now. It gives my husband and I a great deal of flexibility with our jobs, and brings the grandparents so much joy.

        • Don’t give up the good thing by any means! Just look at the socialization aspect and consider part-time (we only do 2-3 mornings/week, then nanny picks up for nap). if grandparents are doing playdates or otherwise getting your kiddo around others his/her age, then by all means, keep on going!

          Mine was either a tag-a-long with her big sister’s playdates, or just playing with her big sister. She didnt’ really get to do much interacting with kids her own age (or if she did, big sis was there too). Daycare really helped with that, and when she goes to preschool at 3, she’ll be super comfortable with pickups/dropoffs, etc.

  9. Patty Mayonnaise says:

    Thanks to the great advice you ladies provided, I pumped on Amtrak earlier this week and lived to tell the tale! Now I have another bf question… my goal is to make it to at least 1 yr ebf and I’m at 10.5 months and my supply seems to have dipped pretty suddenly. It might be bc of my period which has happened before, but I’m panicking (which doesn’t help!). I had oatmeal this morning and I’m trying to stay well hydrated. But I’m so close and I really really want to make my goal. Any advice? Thanks so much!!!

    • I’d supplement with formula a tiny bit to get over the hump and lower your stress. You might find that your supply improves quickly and then you’ll be back to EBF. Stressing about not having enough milk is the WORST. I did this and only needed a little but of supplementation and then we were back on track. I was dealing with a family crisis at the time and didn’t have the energy or bandwidth to pursue other ways to increase my supply though. If you’re already sleeping well and relatively relaxed you may have more stamina than I did!

    • NewMomAnon says:

      If I remember (which I may not), my supply started dropping off at about 11 months because kiddo was eating so much regular food, she didn’t need as much nutrition from milk. That was also when I got my period back, which only knocked my supply down for a couple days.

      It was also when kiddo started being very mobile, and I realized I wasn’t drinking as much water because there was no safe place to leave a full glass of water.

    • Anon in NYC says:

      This happened to me – a drop at about 10.5 months. I started supplementing with whole milk in her bottle (ped told me it was okay starting at 10 months). So I would add 1 oz at a time to each bottle to get to the normal bottle amount. I was really conflicted about this because I didn’t want to introduce whole milk that early, and given how close we were to 12 months I didn’t want to introduce formula because it seemed like a waste of money / effort to find one that we liked. But in the end, it was completely fine.

      • This is what I did. I don’t think it’s worth transitioning to formula at this point on,y to have to then transition to milk, assuming your kid eats well otherwise. Having a little milk to add in also took pressure off me so that I was able to nurse until about 13 months or so. It was honestly the most relaxed weaning I could imagine. So in your shoes, I’d add in some whole milk as needed, drink some mothers milk tea and try not to relax. You can still make it to a year, and even if not, you’re doing/done really well!

        • Yup! I was supremely done pumping around 10.5/11 months. I decided to use what I had in the freezer and then started cow’s milk a little early. I nursed until 14 months when my son decided he didn’t have time for the b00b anymore. Being done with pumping was amazing and took so much stress off of me!

  10. Patty Mayonnaise says:

    Thanks! I have a pretty good freezer stash, so I dip into that sometimes to get through. But I’d really like to avoid it if possible. But I guess that’s what it’s there for!!

    • Don’t be afraid to use the stash! That’s what I tell myself anyway.

      Practically, oatmeal does actually seem to help me. I also try to pump for a longer period of time – pretty much until I run dry. I know this isn’t feasible if you’re super busy at work (for me it takes 30 min) but this does seem to help me. I also do better when I stick to a schedule because then my body “knows” to have the milk ready (I think that’s how it works?) rather than jumping around. Which means I will actually leave a meeting to go pump to stay on my schedule rather than delaying or going early, but it makes a big difference in my supply.

      • Agree with a lot of the above. My daughter dropped a feeding around that time as she was getting into a routine with more meals, so my supply dipped. Didn’t matter on weekends, but I had a hard time filling the bottles. I want to say that we might have asked daycare to drop a bottle unless she asked for it. I figured if she didn’t want to nurse on her days at home, she didn’t need the bottle at school. Helped a lot. Don’t be afraid to use your freezer stash. It only lasts so long. My husband recently tossed a bunch of our milk that was too old, and in retrospect, I wish I had found some way to use it before it went bad.

    • Katala says:

      That’s what it’s there for! I ended up tossing a bit of my freezer stash with both kids because it got too old and they were off on solids and milk before I knew it. The 10-month dip, which I think is very common, and/or period (or illness?)-related drop in supply is exactly why you have a stash! Before you know it, you won’t really need it anymore.

  11. Paging Redux (I think?) says:

    There was an interesting post and discussion about two weeks ago from someone with a passive aggressive admin making comments when the poster left to go work at home the next day instead of being in the office- what happened?!?? Did you say anything back?

    • Redux says:

      Yes, that was me! She hasn’t brought it up again and I haven’t proactively sought her out on it. I do have my response in my back pocket though, a mix of the fabulous advice you all gave me. I am planning on saying, “You know, you sure bring that up a lot. I’ve arranged my schedule with Manager. Is there something that you want to say to me about it?” I suspect it will come up because we recently changed payroll processors and she is now required to clock in and out (I am not required to do so because I’m on salary), so it’s surely on her mind. I will be sure to update when it happens.

      • Redux says:

        Immediate update: as she was leaving this afternoon she said, “see you… Monday.” I replied, “Yep, see you Monday.” And that was it (for now).

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