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Anon says
Talk to me about amnio. We have a normal cell-free fetal DNA result (low risk) and an early anatomy scan (13 weeks) that was offered to me because of a genetic abnormality in a previous pregnancy that ended in miscarriage. That particular abnormality is pretty much not possible now with the good results in this pregnancy. However, these were just screening tests and I’m also concerned because my husband’s sister was born with a poorly understood disability (not in the US). On the one hand, I want definitive information and would make the difficult choice to have an abortion to prevent suffering. On the other, there’s the small risk of miscarriage (1 in 900 for amnio at my hospital). What would you do? Would you wait until the full 20-week scan to decide? Also, age 35.
Anon says
Would you be able to handle it if the amnio caused a miscarriage of a healthy baby? I would not, and even though the risk is so small, I definitely would not do it if there were no indications based on genetic testing (including my/husband’s carrier screening) and an early ultrasound. But you have to decide which feels riskier to you: missing a diagnosis, or having a miscarriage.
Anonymous says
That’s a cruel and scare mongery way to put things.
Anonymous says
I’m not the person who posted, but O don’t really think it’s cruel or scare mongery. 1 in 900 is not a small risk, statistically. It’s significant. Personally, I would not do amnio: I would wait until the 20 week scan. If you’re 35, I’m going to make a big assumption that the youngest your SIL could be is 25? Thats a lifetime in the medical field. 25 years ago babies born at 34 weeks didn’t survive. I have two healthy 3 year olds born at 34 weeks. I know that’s not the same as having a disability, but just trying to give you some perspective. Have you asked your OB for advice?
Anon says
It’s 0.1%, which is not a big risk statistically. It may be more risk than you would personally tolerate, but for any other procedure, we’d be going full-steam ahead with risk levels that stellar. Heck, the background risk of miscarriage is a lot higher than that.
Anon says
I don’t think it’s true at all that we’d be going full steam ahead at all. We could go annual full body scans to check for cancer, but we don’t (insurance would never pay, but it’s theoretically something that could be done).
Our ped doesn’t even do annual blood work at well checks, and that has basically no risk at all.
Anonymous says
I don’t think it’s cruel or scare-mongering either. It’s a risk-benefit question. Which risk bothers you more–risk of miscarriage or risk of undiscovered genetic defect? Each person must decide for herself.
Anon says
OP is asking why people would/would not have an amnio. This is my answer. The main downside is risk of miscarriage (which she mentioned) and the only risk of not doing it is missing a diagnosis, so how is it cruel to say that?
Anonymous says
How would you feel if you killed your baby doing this is not a necessary thing
Anon says
I mean, yeah, that’s what it comes down to. That is the risk, so think through which downside is more troubling *to you personally* when there is no indication of something wrong
Anonymous says
Great thanks for confirming you did want to be cruel
Anon says
Other downsides are costs and burden of doing the procedure, which isn’t zero.
You also have to pair the .3% to the risk that it detects something important previous undetected that wouldn’t be seen on the anatomy scan. Which is also a very small chance statistically.
Huh? says
Not the original commenter, but I don’t think this is fear mongering at all. It’s a basic cost benefit analysis. The cost is a very small risk that the procedure causes OP to lose the pregnancy, plus the cost of the procedure, plus the time and stress of going through the procedure. The benefit is a very small chance that it could detect something the normal NIPT, normal ultrasound, and anatomy scan all miss.
It’s a personal decision, but those are the factors being weighed.
Anonymous says
If the 13 week scan was normal, I would wait until the later scan. Can you have the 2nd trimester scan at 18 weeks? and then amino if there is an issue in the 18 week scan? I had my scans at 11 and 18 weeks.
Anon says
With a normal NIPT and especially paired with a normal early ultrasound, I would not do anything more unless the anatomy scan indicates it is needed.
Anon says
+1
CCLA says
This is where we shook out a few years ago after extensive discussion.
Anon says
I would decline. I was offered an amnio this pregnancy only due to my age (37) and it being IVF (all testing came back normal, no history of miscarriage, 2 prior live births, embroyos from early 30’s) and declined without thinking about it. Did you get the expanded blood genetic screening that’s available now?
Anon says
I, personally, did not do an amnio with fairly similar circumstances. I didn’t feel like a karyotype would provide much additional information than a low risk NIPT. If you know anything more about your sister in law’s condition, you can discuss with your OB if it could possibly be genetic. If so, you could see a genetic counselor to determine if an amnio could test for the condition (you might even be able to see one for free from the company who did the NIPT testing, I don’t know all the details of that though).
Betsy says
Was it a smooth process when you used short term disability for maternity leave? Mine has been really stressful so far – I submitted everything in advance as I was told to do, updated them within a week of the baby being born, and now we’re two pay periods in and I haven’t received an STD payment yet. My claims examiner ignored my emails from the last two weeks until I called customer service and they emailed her supervisor, and still I just got a curt reply back saying that it was in process and telling me to send a copy of my state’s maternity leave award letter (I don’t live in a state with a paid maternity leave program). No one told me I wouldn’t get paid following the normal time period, so I’m stressed out that there is going to be a problem! Is this just how STD claims go, or is this unusually messy? If it’s not normal, how much would you complain to your HR department about it? I’m really irritated to be taking care of a newborn and also have to be following up repeatedly to make sure my maternity leave is actually paid.
Anon says
My health insurance was cancelled during my mat leave because my paperwork wasn’t processed correctly. And they gave away my parking spot because I didn’t notify the parking office that I was going on mat leave.
Anon says
What!!! This is awful. Did you get it worked out?
Spirograph says
Oh no, I’m sorry, that is stress no one needs at a time when they’re eligible for STD! It’s been several years since I filed an STD claim, but the fact that I don’t remember it being a cumbersome process makes me think mine were pretty smooth. I would definitely let your HR department know your experience; they maaaay (unlikely) be able to help with follow up, but certainly if they get many similar complaints, that should inform their decisions and negotiation when the contract with that insurance provider is up.
Anon says
My friend who lives in Washington state had a delay in receiving her checks as well and had to follow up multiple times. It’s incredibly frustrating how little we do to help women during maternity leave.
Vicky Austin says
No advice for you, but my goodness, this is reminding me how utterly stupid it is that there are life admin tasks that depend on you doing them in the hours/days/weeks after having a baby (telling health insurance you had a baby, stuff like this, etc).
Anonymous says
Your HR dept won’t care, if anything you could try the benefits administrator if your company has one.
It often takes a lot of back and forth between doctor and insurance company. It’s super frustrating.
Anon says
I was on Maternity leave this winter. My STD provider was also pretty awful. I did end up reaching out to my benefits admin in HR and they were ultimately the ones to get things sorted out.
What also interesting, my husband had 2 months of parental leave. His company happened to use the same STD provider as my employer. They also caused so many problems my husband’s employer dropped that provider going into 2024 for a new company. So if you haven’t let HR know, I’ve at least scene one scenario where they did act on feedback.
Anonymous says
I am pretty sure that insurance companies of all stripes engage in improper delay and denial of claims in hopes that people will just give up and they won’t have to pay out.
Anon says
Tips or recommended reading on dealing with sibling rivalry/aggression? Strategies to ignore? 1 and 3 year old boys fight so much I’m losing my mind.
Spirograph says
I liked the book Siblings Without Rivalry, and found the tactics pretty effective in preschool years. I should re-read it and see if there’s anything that still works for elementary / tweens.
How are they fighting? Is it stealing toys, trying to hurt each other, etc or do they start out wrestling like puppies and then it accidentally escalates?
Anon2 says
Yes, how are they fighting? A 1yo is basically a baby who cannot be held responsible for his impulses and reactions, and a 3yo is barely out of that baby stage and JUST learning self-control. Prevention is really the best strategy here (making sure they don’t get too hungry or tired, keeping them separated if you can’t supervise closely, etc.)
My first two boys are 25 months apart, I get it! And there’s a reason I went with 3+ year age gaps with my other kids, lol.
Anon says
Mine are almost 2 and almost 4 (22 months apart), so I get it. I think at these ages you just need to keep them apart and/or have a parent on hand to supervise. Are they fighting over toys? Pushing/biting each other? 1 yo is a baby… We’ve dealt with a lot of aggression from my older child toward the younger once since younger one was born (pushing, hitting, birth). We did a combination of not giving it too much attention (since I believe it was mostly attention-seeking driven behavior), reading books about not hitting/biting, and some age-appropriate time out). It’s gotten better now that he’s almost 4, but now the 2yo fights back ;)
OP says
OP here. 1.5 year old is usually on the receiving end of the torment. 3.5 year old shoves, kicks, pinches, pulls hair. Loads of fun! 1 year old just screams back and occasionally will hit back. The fun wrestling kind of fighting is only about 10% of the time.
Thanks everyone for the recs on the books!
Mary Moo Cow: thank you for the reassurance. Here I am wondering the same thing!!!
Anon says
I just posted above. I used to get really angry at the older child for being aggressive toward the younger one (lots of “no”, “we don’t hit”, “I won’t let you hit”), but finally tried just completely ignoring (when older one would hit/push/bit, I’d just pick up the younger child, comfort her and completely ignore older child) the older one’s behavior for about a week and it substantially subsided very quickly. I think he needed to get the message that hurting his younger sibling was not a way to get mom’s attention.
Anonymous says
This. Comfort your baby. 3.5 is way too old to be hitting a smaller child.
Anonymous says
I’m glad this works for you. OP, I’ve tried ignoring (mostly because I’m exhausted by policing every moment they are together) and tbh the fighting hasn’t subsided much. I think it’s perfectly fine to ignore it and it’s a strategy I will continue to use, but also don’t feel like a failure if this isn’t a magic bullet for you. I try to enforce kindness in my kids whenever I can. But also, my brother and I fought like cats and dogs and he and I are very close as adults. I’m closer to the one I used to beat up than the one I played with as a kid, ironically.
Anon2 says
@10:45, I remind myself that the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference. If there’s fighting and anger, it often means there is a relationship, rather than two kids ignoring each other.
This doesn’t mean I *allow* it, and there are plenty of good moments interspersed, but I’d rather have kids that fight like cats and dogs because there is love undergirding it than to have a “peaceful” house of people who don’t really bother with each other
Anonymous says
I will say as the older one has gotten older the physical aggression from him has reduced a LOT. The younger one (now almost 4) is still in the thick of it so we spend a lot of time redirecting. His most challenging acts of violence are throwing so we tend to put items in time out OR put him in time out if he’s just hulking out. But the older one has gotten better about not retaliating.
The random shoves/pushes/etc from the older brother are almost totally gone though. But solidarity – once he pushed him in the front yard and he went face first into a light pole. We separated them a lot and used strategic screen time (let the younger one watch Paw Patrol so older one could Lego in peace w/o little bro stealing Legos/knocking them down and creating a cycle of fighting; or vice versa). It’s all very age appropriate some times so hard to fully eliminate it.
Anon says
I have twins, and age 3.5 was the height of their rivalry. They were verbal, so I think I expected them to have more reasoning skills than they actually did, but they hit a wall, quickly, when their ability to reason didn’t immediately work on the other one. So, everything was fine, then suddenly it wasn’t. They did resort to smacking when the other twin didn’t immediately concede to the demand. If it helps, they are now 4.5 and get along amazingly and incredibly well. They do not smack or hit, and usually it just takes one saying the other’s name loudly to push through the frustration. That is the extent of their rivalry.
What helped get us to that point is always controversial, but we lavished attention on the victim (“Are you okay? That looked like it hurt? I wouldn’t like that either.”). Found a solution for the biggest pain point (using a timer when they both wanted a toy). We never punished the aggressor — just calmly repeated (I know you are frustrated, but hands are not for hitting), to avoid a “but he did first” whine/argument. It worked super well with our older kids. If you don’t worry you are going to get in trouble, your instinct isn’t to blame your sibling.
So TL, DR — best strategy to avoid the pain points — you cannot leave a 1.5 yr old and a 3.5 year old alone. Does the 3.5 yr old have his own space? Alone time with you? Gently redirect when they do hit, no punishing.
Anonymous says
3.5 should be getting a time out every time for violence. Do not let your 3.5 year old shove or kick a 1.5 year old! If that means that you have to stay within arms reach of the 1.5 year old to block the 3.5 year old then you do.
Our daycare would suspend a preschooler if they hit a baby in the under 2 room.
Anonymous says
Why does the 3.5-year-old have the opportunity to hit the 1.5-year-old, though? You can’t leave two kids this age together without supervising them so closely that you can immediately grab one.
Spirograph says
My kids are all ~2 years apart and sometimes I wonder whether they’re savage animals destined to live outside society, too… it’s a rough age difference for this dynamic; the fighting always ebbs and flows. Often they’re great friends and play together for hours. Sometimes they start play wrestling but it gets too rough and ends in a bloody nose and/or tears. Sometimes they just seem out to get each other (*usually* because something else is bothering one or more of them, or they’re hungry or tired).
1.5 and 3.5 are tough ages! The little one isn’t quite big/coordinated/verbal enough to “hang” with the older one, but probably wants to play, and the older one is still young enough to be frustrated by that rather than seeing little bro as a cute tag-along to take care of. They’ll probably outgrow a lot of this… but IME, not all of it, sorry. :) It does get easier to manage once they’re a little older and slightly more rational.
Mary Moo Cow says
I tried strategies from Siblings Without Rivalry and More Fun With Sisters (book) and Brothers (an online, self-directed class offered by a research professor at a university) with some success. My kids are 6 and 8 now. Reading the book and enrolling in the course gave me peace of mind, at the very least, that I wasn’t alone and it wasn’t just my kids, and my kids weren’t savage animals destined to live outside of a civilized society. Siblings Without Rivalry, specifically, also helped me identify the patterns or triggers as a tricky first step and then had suggestions for implementing specific strategies.
Anonymous says
At those ages you need to physically separate and redirect into other activities.
Anon says
Is there a glider that is a loveseat or 1.5-person width? I thought Dutalier made one like this when I had my kid in 2020, but I can’t find it now.
Anon says
I couldn’t find one when I had my twins 6 years ago. I got a 1.5 wide rocking chair and, honestly, didn’t really use it.
Cb says
I mentioned local school drama about mixing up classes from year to year a few weeks pack, and everyone shared my bemusement that this was so controversial. School has just confirmed that they are mixing up kids next year, and parents are about to get the pitchforks, tales of picking up children in tears, and are planning a vote in opposition.
I’m staying well out of the Whatsapp drama, but this is a public school, not a commune? You don’t get to vote on how the school is managed. I’d prefer they did more math and didn’t watch TV at school, but no one is going to let me vote on that.
What’s causing a ruckus at your kids’ school?
Anon says
Oh wow! I guess I can see how if you’ve never had mixed classes it would seem like a big, unwlecome change. My kindergartner’s class this year was a dream, they all gelled together so well and I would love if she could continue with this cohort. Of course since I live in the US and the mixing is standard, I accept it, but if our school had decided to mix this year for the first time I have to admit I’d be pretty unhappy.
We have drama about, what else, high ability tracking. Officially our district doesn’t have a high ability program, because the district overall is very high-achieving and there’s a lot of differentiation within the classrooms to meet kids where they are (my kid’s K class had 4 or 5 different groups for both math and reading). Unofficially, there has apparently been one class per grade of the super high-achievers but reportedly they’re discontinuing this because everyone got mad when their kids weren’t put in this class. But now people are mad that it’s ending. I don’t really have a dog in the fight since I doubt my kid would qualify for the most selective class either way, but I do think this unofficial class that kids get into only via teacher recommendation is sort of shady, and if they’re going to have a high ability program it should be official and everyone should be given the option to test into it.
My dad told me that when he was a kid, the elementary school classes were officially grouped by ability, e.g., they had five first grade classes called 1-1, 1-2, through 1-5, with 1-1 being the best. And at the end of the year they gathered all the kids together in the auditorium and announced who was in each class. A different era for sure!
Anonymous says
No this is silly. Informal
Tracking based on teachers actually knowing kids is vastly superior to requiring yet more testing.
Anon says
Ideally you’d take both into account. Teachers definitely have info that isn’t captured by a test, but the lack of an objective standard hurts kids from underrepresented minority backgrounds. The vast majority of elementary school teachers in the US are white and native English speakers, and there are lots of studies that show teachers have lower expectations for students from minority backgrounds and kids who speak English as a second language (not intended as a criticism of teachers — I think all humans unconsciously favor people who look and sound like us). And it wouldn’t be required testing; most districts in our area do opt-in testing for high ability programs, so everyone has the opportunity to take the test but no one has to.
Anonymous says
In our school the informal class of high ability kids is to make it easier for the teacher. The teacher can give the same differentiated work to the high achieving group. In my kid’s school the class with the high achievers is also the class with the cluster of kids that are pulled out for extra help. There are ~10-12 kids that are pulled out for math, reading, and/or ESL. The other 10 kids move at a very fast pace. I thought this was a really interesting solution. They also put a nearly full time special educator in the classroom so when the class divides up, he’s always with the group that needs extra help.
My daughter is in the classroom and said it’s been her best year. Parents of the kids that get extra help also report their kids are happy.
Mary Moo Cow says
Ooohh, thanks for the update! I’m hoping everyone will be pleasantly surprised by how well the mixing up the classes goes a few months into school. Hopefully the kerfuffle will calm down over the summer break. And I would very much like to hear if you start a petition for more math and no tv as a tongue in cheek reaction.
We’re building a new addition (adding a legit gym for the first time!) this school year, so the ruckus going into school was that the kids would lose their playground for the year. It’s been…fine! Teachers, and especially the PE teacher, got creative and stocked bubbles, playground balls, hula hoops, soccer nets, etc. and lead the kids in old school playground games like Red Light Green Light during recess, and the kids get two recesses a day instead of one after lunch. The shiny new playground might be open for the start of the new school year, but no big deal if it’s not.
Anon says
Yes, we’re getting a brand new high school and parents are incensed that their children’s senior year was impacted by construction and the kids won’t get to graduate on their home field. (After having 8th grade messed up by Covid.)
Guys…where you physically walk for graduation does. not. matter. And you should hope for such a full life for your child that senior year is a blip. I wonder how much of this angst is projected out to their kids, and how much is venting on Facebook, because this “anxious generation” may be in large part parent-imposed!
Cb says
I think it’ll be fine but my goodness, people are acting like it’s the end of the world. We talked about it as an exciting opportunity to make new friends, but also reminded him he’d see his pals at lunchtime and recess. I know some kids will really struggle, but the school will provide support. They do extra days ahead of term time to help kids who need to get to grips with the classroom, get to know their teacher.
Anonymous says
A friend of mine (different elementary, same district) is the kindergarten room mom. A mom in her class is LIVID because kindergarten graduation doesn’t include caps and gowns. My friend is nonplussed. Several other moms and I assured her our kinder graduations did not include caps and gowns; they do a cute song and teachers announce what the kids want to be when they grow up. We do get photos of them in their caps and gowns. Well the kinder mom deemed this unacceptable, went to a hotel and got a conference room rate to hold a graduation ceremony, complete with caps and gowns. This is in addition to what the school is already planning. She told my friend “it’s so great that this will only cost each parent an extra $40!” And not doing it is “robbing her children of their childhood.” Sheesh. I feel terrible for my friend having to deal with this completely unhinged lady.
Anon says
Wow, that is completely unhinged. Some kind of celebration to mark the end of the year is nice, but what your teacher has planned sounds lovely. I actually think caps and gowns for K “graduation” is sort of silly and couldn’t care less that our K didn’t do them at all. It’s not a graduation if they’re staying at the same school next year!
Anon says
I foresee this lady getting stuck with a huge bill when parents don’t opt in to this crazy extra ceremony. Dealing with her in future years will not be fun for your friend
Mary Moo Cow says
That happened at our school! It was the first time the school had done it, so there were no guidelines or templates. A parent sent out an email telling us the date, time, and structure, and that it would be $50, due upon receipt, please. The email went out the day of a school event, and hoo boy, you can imagine the conversations that night.
Anonymous says
Hahahaha she thinks anyone is going to show up for her fake ceremony?
I feel sorry for this lady’s poor kid.
Anon says
last night we had a kindergarten performance and one mom did say she wished they were going to get caps and gowns, but did not go ahead to do this.
Boston Legal Eagle says
Wait, kindergarten graduation? Here, K kids stay in the same school, so what are they graduating into? Maybe she was missing this for her kid’s pre-K “graduation.”
Anon says
A lot of schools do kindergarten graduation even though the kids stay in the same school. I’ve always thought it was silly because they’re not graduating if they’ll be down the hall next year! I think it’s one of those things that was fueled by social media.
Anonymous says
Our drama is over book bans and a ballot measure to move from an appointed school board to an elected school board.
Anon says
Girl, in the trenches with you (blue city/red state).
Anonymous says
There was a custody dispute where a non-custodial parent tried to kidnap a child from aftercare, so since then we’re not allowed into the school at all. That’s how the regular school day is (have to show your license on the security camera, and they send the kid out) so I guess it’s just bringing it on par. But annoying to have to wait outside on bad weather days.
Anon says
We’ve never been allowed inside at aftercare. In general our aftercare seems way more cautious and fearful of getting sued than the school. School just…dismisses the kids and they walk out. Aftercare you have to punch in a pass code to get your kid.
Anonymous says
Low stakes question – What’s your kid’s favorite post-T-ball game snack? Something in between the White Hen cherry coke slushies or orange wedges of my youth (no one wanted to be the kid whose parents brought orange wedges instead of taking the team to the White Hen next to the field).
Anonymous says
Ice cream
Spirograph says
Chips seem really popular post-game snacks around here. Like, the giant pack of individual bags of
doritos/fritos/pretzels/lays you can get from Costco. +gatorade. I have yet to meet a sports kid that doesn’t love gatorade.
Anon says
+1. Gatorade is the drink of choice with my 4 year old’s team, and my 9 year old’s team. Throw in a bag of chips, and the kids are thrilled.
From reading here, I realize I am way, way, way, way less into policing my kid’s eating habits than a lot of parents (we’re living large with OJ and lemonade usually stocked in the house), but even I raised an eyebrow when a parent brought cans of coke as their snack to a 7PM evening baseball game on a school night.
Anonymous says
OMG as an adult I won’t even drink a Coke at 7 p.m. unless I need to stay up all night.
Anon says
Ha, same!! When the drinks came out of the coolers, even the kids were kind of side eyeing each other, and tentatively taking the drinks out…like, is this for real? do we really get to do this? The sweet parent who brought the snacks was a recent transplant to the US, and everyone just kind of rolled with it. The kids were stoked to have a highly unusual treat, and everyone apparently survived bc they all showed up to play two days later :) Man, I miss that team. A good, very happy group of parents and kids.
AwayEmily says
Yes! My kids are always so thrilled with little bags of chips.
anon says
Home made muffins (with some whole wheat flour and blueberries for extra nutrition) and extra cold juice boxes were a hit.
Anon says
No comment on the snacks, but this is the second time I have discussed White Hen today. When you run out, run out to White Hen….
Anonymous says
LOL, that song has been stuck in my head since we got the game schedule yesterday, I have such a strong memory association between slushies and t-ball!
GCA says
All of these can be purchased in bulk from Costco and are popular post-activity (cub scout meeting, soccer, xc ski lesson) snacks: Animal crackers, goldfish, sun chips, ‘Aussie bites’ (they look and taste like a cross between a muffin, an energy ball and a granola bar).
If it’s hot and the kids need hydration – clementines, Gatorade, freezer pops.
Anonymous says
popsicles or goldfish
Clementine says
Fruit snacks (like the little gummy packets). Orange slices are very popular with the kids. Munchkins were a big hit when we brought them to an early sports tournament.
Anonymous says
When I was a kid I haaaated orange slices because they were so sticky.
Anonymous says
I’m going to IKEA Friday to buy twin beds…for my twins. Any favorites? They are three years old and share a room. I’m not interested in bunk beds. They each have a 7 foot by 4 foot space for their beds, so dimensions aren’t super important. The rest of their furniture is IKEA.
Anon says
I have 4.5 yr twins who share a room, and no specific advice on beds – but I wish I would have purchased beds with storage underneath. They both have special things that are specific to each, and we resort to under the bed baskets for their “special treasures.” I wish they had drawers to tuck their items for safekeeping (and out of my visibility). They each have space in the closets and desks, but these are things that are precious to them. If you have sentimental pack rats like me (or maybe this is just a byproduct of sharing a room), the extra storage will never not be used.
Anon says
+1 on never enough storage. I have an only child but we’re probably getting a lofted bed soon so we have more space for storage (and a desk).
Anonymous says
I agree that you can never have enough storage, but keep in mind that the built-in drawers require an enormous amount of clearance. I don’t know how you would even use them with a nightstand or dresser next to the bed. We have boxes instead of drawers for this reason. I actually find the boxes or baskets to look less cluttery than the drawers.
Anonymous says
Busunge at Ikea! You can use it with a crib sized mattress when they are small and it has a curved headboard and footboard which makes it feel cozy. Expandable to use with a twin sized mattress as they get older.
We got it in while and have used various removable decals to decorate the headboard and footboard as kid moved from toddler to early elementary to pre-teen. She’s almost 13 and I offered a new bed but she likes this one and just wants new room decor.
It’s not too high (don’t need a box spring) but still far enough off the floor to put some storage containers underneath if you want.
Ikea says
we have the Kura loft beds for my twins. they continue to share at age 9 and really appreciate the private under bed space (we’ve added curtains). that said, changing the sheets is annoying
Anonymous says
We have the IKEA hemnes twin for our one child plus the wheeled drawers underneath. We like it so far! He bounces on it a lot and it’s sturdy. House with low storage so we’re always buying furniture that doubles as storage.