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The warmer weather and extra sunshine have me feeling a bit more optimistic. As we tiptoe towards something resembling the Before Times, I’m allowing myself to daydream about in-person weekend brunches, baby showers, and weddings.
Nom Maternity’s Ana Floral During & After Dress would be perfect for all of these outings and more. You can wear it before, during, and after your pregnancy. It has a front partial snap placket for nursing, two very useful front pockets, and adjustable grosgrain tie straps.
My favorite thing is the charming and sophisticated black-and-white floral print. The only accessory you’ll need is a virgin mimosa!
The dress is $148 and available in XS–XL at Bloomingdale’s. Another cute option in the same fabric is Nom’s Valeria Dress for $116. With code SAVEMORE, the prices come down to $111 and $87, respectively.
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Anonymous says
This looks like an old-fashioned pillowcase dress for little girls.
Pogo says
The bows are… A Lot.
AnonATL says
I don’t hate the print, but the bows are not for me.
Anon says
Didn’t Meghan Markle wear something like that when she was pregnant? I can’t find a photo now but I swear she wore a flowy dress like this with shoulder bows.
Cc says
I don’t like how this looks (pattern and bows) but I am also mystified by how many strapless, skinny strap or off shoulder maternity dresses there are.
Pogo says
Ugh, positive case in kiddo’s class from last week, just notified last night. Every time I think this nightmare is nearly ending, something like this comes up. I supposed until we can vax kids it will continue to be like this, though in this case we think it was the teacher (based on texting other parents and some process of elimination, but just speculation). Only bright side is parents are fully vaxxed so they can help and we’re both half vaxxed at least.
Has anyone else been through this? Was the classroom able to reopen once all kids tested negative, or did the board of health shut it down the full two weeks? Trying to determine what we’re in for as I am in a busy time at work and also JUST applied for two internal roles that I’ll need to prep for (naturally).
Anonymous says
In my area it would be shut for two weeks minimum. Anyone who tests positive has to quarantine for 10 days and their close contacts have to quarantine for two weeks beyond that. So if your kid has it, then it would be 24 days from symptom onset before you could take him back.
Anonymous says
So sorry to hear this… an unfortunately reminder that our lives can still be turned upside down.
In our district, the class is shut for the full 2 weeks automatically and children are asked to isolate DESPITE an initial negative test. (e.g. you COULD test positive as late as 14 days post exposure). That said, I think that it is unclear whether follow up testing is required as long as the kiddos remain asymptomatic.
For our sanity, when this happened to us the two weeks prior to my most significant annual deliverable (of course), once all the kiddos tested negative to shared the burden a couple hours a day with another family in the classroom who happens to live a couple doors down. I know not ideal, but we were all drowning (no local family etc.).
Pogo says
I *think* this is what they do too, though not 100% sure. I think they do whatever board of health says. We’re getting him tested for our sanity, but expecting to have to keep him home the full 14 days.
Trying to avoid thinking about a positive result… that would be the 24 days as explained above, for sure (what happened with our nephew). And the whole family is supposed to abide by that rule, even if they never test positive. Luckily I don’t need to go into the office, but that would throw a wrench into my husband’s job for sure.
Clementine says
Blurg. Our classroom was fully closed for the full 2 weeks from the last day the positive case was in the room, no siblings could come to daycare/go to school AND kiddo with direct exposure had a county mandated quarantine where they were not allowed to leave the ‘premises’ of my address except for Medical appointments.
Anonymous says
In our daycare, once everyone tested negative on the 5th day after exposure (and showed my symptoms)they opened the classroom up. FWIW it was a teacher and before the vax was available.
Are the daycare teachers elig for vax where you are? If so, at some point, I would think there is a conversation to be had with the daycare about shutdowns due to teachers refusing to be vaccinated. Not yet, but perhaps this fall.
Boston Legal Eagle says
Yes, they have been eligible in MA since mid March. I also have this question about the continued need for quarantines once at least teachers are eligible for the vaccine. I really don’t want to have to quarantine until kids are eligible because that is going to be a long time to wait. I feel like once teachers are eligible, and all adults are eligible and have access to the vaccine (I’m thinking by summer), then this should be treated like any other viral illness for kids, and no further need for quarantines. Am I off base?
And Pogo, I’m sorry to hear that. This has been my fear. So far, we’ve just been in situations where a family member of our teachers (not the teacher) has tested positive but no classroom closures. I want our daycare to require vaccines for teachers, but I don’t know if that’s legal.
Anon says
i think even if all adults are eligible for vaccine/have been vaccinated, it seems unlikely/unrealistic to expect that it will be treated like any other viral illness for kids at this point in time. if covid is around forever, maybe in a few years it will be treated like any other viral illness, but since kids are more susceptible to the variants, i think daycares will still probably be on the more cautious side of things as no daycare wants to be the one in the news that got rid of its quarantine and then had a kid get super sick. the CDC also has not updated its policies about daycares as far as I know. i could see reducing the quarantine, but eliminating it all together is likely unrealistic.
Anon says
If you live in a blue state, maybe, although even then I think it will be a long time before employers actually start mandating the vaccine. In my red state, employers legally can’t mandate it even if they wanted to and even if the legislature hadn’t interfered I think it would have been tough for a daycare to mandate it because so many people would object and they’d lose people who are hard to replace (it may not be hard for Walmart to replace people who quit, but daycares are already dealing with a shortage of qualified employees). Fully 50% of our teachers refused the vax, but I’m not sure what daycare can do about it, other than offer incentives for getting the vaccine, which they’re doing.
Pogo says
Yeah, they’re eligible. Like I said, I don’t know the whole story and shouldn’t really speculate, but they definitely had a sub on Friday and my son reported that all the regular kids were there sooo. I’m surprised a bit because when I had last talked to her, his teacher mentioned she wanted to get it right away, and I know at least two of the other teachers got it because they mentioned it at drop off (feeling sick after the second dose, etc). It is what it is, I guess.
Anon says
I know three people who’ve gotten Covid despite being fully vaccinated (all had very mild illness). It happens, and it will happen more and more as more people get vaccinated and the world opens up and more people return to normal, giving the virus more opportunity to spread. I definitely wouldn’t assume she didn’t get the vaccine. And I think it’s actually good news that it’s a teacher – kids take their masks off to eat and sleep and a teacher is hopefully masked 100% of the time she’s with the kids. Our center has had five teachers total test positive (separately, not one outbreak), and zero kids got it. The people I know whose kids got it at daycare/school got it from a classmate.
Pogo says
Agree – we are on day 5 since exposure so I’m really hoping the test gives us some relief, even if we have to keep him home for another 2w.
Anonymous says
Our district says it notifies and quarantines kids who spent more than 15 minutes within 6 feet of the infected person, but in practice it’s actually even more limited than that.
Anon says
I’m Anon at 9:16 below and this is what our public schools do too, but our daycare policy is much more cautious.
Anon says
Ugh I’m sorry. Our school closes the classroom for a full two weeks, but I believe that’s just their policy and not a health department mandate (the public schools follow less strict rules). The good news for you is that one shot is supposed to be 80-85% effective, so “half vaxxed” is much more than half in terms of protection.
Anonymous says
As someone who got stuck with J&J, this makes me furious. “Half vaxxed” with one of the mRNA vaccines is more protection than I get “fully vaxxed.” The vast majority of vaccines require multiple doses, so it just doesn’t make sense that any one-dose COVID vaccine would be fully effective. I think J&J made a strategic decision to test a one-dose regimen because it was faster, in hopes that it would be “good enough” to pass the low bar for approval.
Anon says
I understand your frustration, but the trials weren’t apples to apples so it’s kind of unfair to J&J to compare the numbers that way. It’s also not clear to me that one dose of Moderna or Pfizer is more effective at preventing severe illness than J&J. The vaccine is counted as “not effective” if you test positive and get the sniffles for a couple days, but most people aren’t very concerned about that, so the efficacy at preventing symptomatic illness isn’t really the most important part.
anon says
You really are under selling the J&J vaccine. Please stop.
There are millions of people around the world who would be thrilled to have access to any vaccine. The J&J vaccine is 100% effective against severe disease and death.
The bar for vaccine approval isn’t low–it requires that the vaccine be safe and efficacious, like all other drugs. Getting more vaccines out there faster will literally save lives. Telling people not to take the J&J vaccine will result in more severe illness and death. You are making yourself part of the problem.
Anon says
The local medical director is very blunt about this. “We want to keep you out of the ground and out of the hospital and J&J is 100% effective at that.”
Anon says
Exactly. And a lot of people, for better or worse, are scared about the new mRNA technology and more comfortable with the older technology in J&J. If someone is going to get J&J or nothing (and there are people that feel that way!), J&J is vastly superior. Don’t discourage them from getting J&J by saying it’s not effective.
Anonymous says
I’m not going to die from COVID. I will probably be permanently disabled if I catch it. To prevent disability, the vaccine needs to prevent all infection, not just death.
anon says
There is no category of person who will be “permanently disabled” if they catch a mild case of COVID after being vaccinated. That would constitute “severe disease.” Stop making stuff up.
Anon says
“To prevent disability, the vaccine needs to prevent all infection, not just death.”
This statement is totally inaccurate and has NO evidence behind it. It’s hard to disprove with certainty until you have a large pool of vaccinated people who got infected anyway to study, but everyone expects vaccines that prevent severe illness and death to also prevent most cases of ‘long Covid’. As tens of millions of people get vaccinated we’re starting to get enough “breakthough cases” to actually gather evidence, and they are not leading to long-term complications or disability. Also even the more effective mRNA vaccines don’t prevent “infection,” they prevent symptomatic illness, and there are definitely people who claim they got long Covid despite an asymptomatic initial illness, so I’m not convinced there’s any difference between testing positive for Covid with no symptoms and testing positive for Covid with a runny nose and low grade fever.
Also there is just no way to know that you would “probably” be permanently disabled if you caught Covid even without a vaccine. That’s a preposterous statement. It’s a possibility, as it is for everyone, but it is by no means “probable” even if you have high-risk health conditions.
You realize that all these anti-J&J statements are discouraging people from getting vaccinated, prolonging the pandemic, leading to more variants that are more likely to escape the vaccine, and ruining life for all of us? You are the problem.
Anonymous says
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/infectious-disease-expert-johnson-johnson-should-begin-trials-on-a-booster/2391417/
Anon says
This south Florida News article misstates the data that was reported. Please don’t cite it. It’s literally wrong. Please use a higher quality news source.
Anon says
Yep, Moderna’s trialing a booster and I expect Pfizer to do the same soon. That’s just common sense with the variants already in circulation and more variants likely to come, especially with the virus being totally out of control in many less affluent countries that don’t have good vaccines. A lot of people think we’ll need to get annual Covid shots just like we get annual flu shots. None of that supports your statements that you’re “probably” going to be disabled if you get Covid or that J&J doesn’t prevent disability.
Also please keep in mind that you’re coming at this from an incredibly privileged position as a US citizen. The developing countries are using Chinese and Russian vaccines that may have essentially zero efficacy, and even Europe and Canada with their high standard of living and universal health care are using AstraZenaca which has vastly reduced efficacy against variants and may have serious side effects. Only in the US is J&J the “bad” vaccine. Every other country in the world would give anything for more J&J supply. So please stop and appreciate that just by virtue of where you were born, you’re ahead of 99% of the rest of the world when it comes to vaccines. You can bury your head in the sand about it all you want, but you were profoundly lucky to have access to the J&J vaccine by April 2021.
Anonymous says
No it isn’t! Please stop spreading misinformation
Anonymous says
The misinformation is that J&J is as effective as the other two vaccines. I accepted the J&J vaccine based on a lie that it was all I’d ever be offered. Two weeks later, our health department was offering all adults Moderna and Pfizer, even though our state was technically still on phase 1B. I am absolutely furious that I was asked to accept a huge risk of disease under false pretenses when something more effective was available.
J&J should have tested a two-dose regimen. It was just greed that led them to go with one dose.
Anon says
“based on a lie that it was all I’d ever be offered” Why on earth would you think this? No US official has ever said adults will only be able to get J&J. We have hundreds of millions of doses of Moderna and Pfizer that have been ordered but not yet delivered, so obviously all you had to do was wait. Also there will almost certainly be a J&J booster by this fall.
anon says
It’s not greed. It’s about vaccinating twice as many people to stop people from dying or ending up in the hospital. Supply is the limiting factor. Only requiring one does means twice as many people can be vaccinated.
Anonymous says
This is ridiculous, not true, nonsense and you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading it. Please stop.
Anonymous says
The one dose vaccine is also extremely important for reaching homebound people and those that are transient. Further, for colleges still doing in-person classes, many states are refusing to give out of state students Pfizer or Moderna because they can’t guarantee their home state will have the second vaccine since they will likely be home by the time the second vaccine is due. Many are allowing out of state college kids to get J&J as they do not have the same concern.
Lastly, I’m fairly certain that “permanent disability” falls under “severe illness” which J&J protects against at a HIGHER percentage than Pfizer or Moderna. I got Pfizer but I would have happily accepted J&J. And actually, if I had known there would have been a huge J&J clinic the following weekend, I may have waited for it. But no one knew what the future would hold so I jumped on the first appt I could get, which was Pfizer.
Anon says
Kat should remove this subthread. It’s horrible misinformation.
Anonymous says
I am so tired of people claiming “misinformation.” It is real information that J&J is less effective, and genuine speculation and questioning as to the motives in releasing a one-dose vaccine. There is nothing wrong with that.
Anon says
It’s not misinformation that J&J appears somewhat less effective at preventing symptomatic illness than Pfizer and Moderna (although there are caveats to that, like that they were trialed at different times) but the OP of this sub-thread has spread a ton of misinformation beyond that simple statement. Everything about J&J’s corporate motives is pure speculation that is completely inappropriate, and the statements about the vaccine not doing anything to prevent disability is just wildly inaccurate. Claiming the vaccine manufacturer’s motives are suspect and the vaccine doesn’t actually do what it claims it does are both major staples of anti-vax misinformation campaigns.
Anon says
Yes please remove this part of the thread, Kat. It’s filled with misinformation and also totally derailed Pogo’s question about daycare quarantine rules.
Anon says
Kat – Agreed with those requesting this be moved and also that this poster be flagged – it’s starting to feel almost more like the button down shirt poster on the main page – like an obsesser more than a usual poster.
Anon says
Unfortunately, this person is a regular long-time poster. But I agree the constant hysteria about the J&J vaccine and Covid in general is not productive or on-topic so it’s tr*lling in that sense.
Anonymous says
You’re getting piled on, but I understand and sympathize with you. I urge you not to spread misinformation about J&J’s motives, though. It’s okay to be frustrated that you didn’t get the “better” vaccine and that people keep repeating that “they’re the same” when anyone who can read a scientific article can see that there are differences, but the fact is that J&J still does have a place and will be important on a societal level. On the individual level, though, I totally hear you.
Anon says
Who says it’s better? There’s no head-to-head trial. J&J may actually be better against some of the variants. Stop spreading misinformation.
Anonymous says
The most recent data from the CDC shows that Pfizer and Moderna appear to be very effective against the variants. Yes, there wasn’t a head-to-head trial, but everyone was saying that J&J’s lower efficacy was still great because Pfizer and Moderna weren’t tested when the variants were around. Now they have been and I’m tired of people acting like 66%=90+%.
Anon says
I heard on a medical professional’s podcast (didn’t verify for myself because I already got a different one) that the efficacy percentages are measured at 2 weeks, but at 4 weeks (I think, could have been 6) J&J measures at 100% while the 2-dose vaccines still are in the 90s. If anyone is upset about J&J they may want to look into it further.
Anonymous says
In my city, many kids aren’t regularly vaccinated at all. I imagine that when kids can get it, our health dept will have to use what is most practicable on this population and J&J will be a godsend compared to the 2-dose ones and Pfizer’s special ultra-cold freezers.
Anonymous says
J&J is testing a 2 dose regimen. I don’t think there are results yet – I haven’t checked in awhile but awhile ago I think I read the trial wouldn’t be done until May. (It takes a lot longer to do a trial with 2 does spread several months apart!) It’s likely that the 2 dose regimen will have improved efficacy. So at some point J&J recipients will probably be offered a booster? I don’t see why you’re denigrating J&J for trying to produce an effective vaccine quickly. Speed is important during a global pandemic!
Pogo says
I actually agree with this – though what I heard was 80% with Moderna at one shot (what I got) vs 90% for J&J. So, luckily not concerned with myself or husband coming down with it AND having to take care of kids for 2+ weeks, which was the ultimate worst case scenario. With my asthma a bad cold or sinus infection puts me down, I did not want to find out how COVID would go.
Anonymous says
According to my assistant, only kids that were within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes after quarantine, and (to me, infuriatingly) anyone can test out of quarantine w/a negative test. We actually confirmed that with the state because it seemed so absurd. So if you find out today you were exposed to a positive case, you can test out of quarantine tomorrow, even though you could still test positive in a few days.
Katala says
I’m sorry. We just were able to send our 4 yo back to daycare after a 10-day quarantine. It didn’t matter that he tested negative. The whole class was shut down for 10 days, and it actually got pushed out because another teacher who was there for the few days between the first positive teacher’s last day at work and her positive test that shut down class tested positive. So what was going to be 7 days because kids were there 3 days past the “last exposure” became the full 10.
Anonymous says
This is very, very region-dependent, and I think it depends on your local health dept as well as school policies. In my county, I the classroom/cohort is shut down for 10 days from the last date of exposure (so last day the infected kid was in class or attended the activity). My mom teaches at a public elementary school in Ohio, and they are not closing classrooms due to positive tests anymore. Only the infected kid has to stay home.
Anonymous says
I’m on my last day of a two-week daycare room shutdown for the same reason. Our center closed the affected room for two weeks, but siblings of kids in the room were still allowed to attend. They measured the two weeks from the time the person with a positive test was in the room, which was a day or two before they were excluded (the person was originally excluded because they had a household member test positive; a day or two later, the person themselves tested positive). So it ended up being 8.5 work days of having kiddo at home.
Pogo says
To answer the actual question, we found out that we can test at 5d post-exposure and then send back if no symptoms. They’re closing the whole classroom until Friday while everyone tests (we’re at 5d post exposure right now). We need to produce the negative result to go back. I’m happy with this result, it seems like a good compromise. I certainly want everyone to test negative before going back, but if we are negative, I need both kids back in full time care asap (we’re keeping sibling home out of abundance of caution, technically not spelled out in the rules).
Pogo says
oh and if you decline testing, mandatory 2w (of which we’re 5d in right now).
Anon says
That seems like a good balance! I’m glad it worked out and fingers crossed for a negative test.
Boston Legal Eagle says
All I want for Christmas is consistent, reliable childcare. I guess that is too much to ask for now.
Anonymous says
Need gift ideas for two friends:
Friend 1 is expecting her third, gender unknown.
Friend 2 will be having her first Mother’s Day as a mom this year.
WWYD?
Anon says
I’m a big fan of flowers for Mother’s Day unless you know your friend doesn’t like them or is allergic. I have a monthly subscription to Bouqs and they have some really lovely bouquets. I think you’ll make your friend’s day. I sent two close friends Mother’s Day cards on our shared first Mother’s Day and they were really touched and said I was the only person other than their husbands and parents who acknowledged it. And that was just a card!
Anon says
Um well you’re super nice! I definitely haven’t gotten gifts post-second baby :)
For the third, i’d wait until baby is born and get her something personalized to that baby, because he or she is probably headed for lots of hand me downs. If you’re talking just a gift for the mom, I’d say the gift of your time! Invite her for a walk or to do something fun and safe! That’s what I’d like most from friends! We also had friends send us a Zabar’s basket after the birth of our third through Goldbelly which was pretty awesome and made me very happy.
WWYD? says
My husband and I are both fully vaccinated so I was excited he would able to fly to attend his brother’s 7-person (all fully vaccinated except one person) outdoor, masked wedding in person this month! At first brother said that he (and the bride’s parents) are only ok with husband coming if he quarantines for 3 days ahead of the wedding. I’m 34-weeks pregnant and we have a two-year old. My fully-vaccinated folks were coming to help me at home while DH is away. As of last night after flights are booked, his brother now wants a 5-day quarantine so husband would be gone for a full week. Brother said he doesn’t have to come and actually would prefer he comes for a separate ceremony that is scheduled for 3-weeks after I give birth. I feel genuine hate for the brother now. Like, how are these our options? We could of course skip both but I know that would make a lot of people sad, including my husband. I ruled out the post-partum option but I’m considering giving the go ahead to the week trip now. I’m just so unbelievably angry about it. Husband is willing to do whatever I want which is sweet but also a heavy burden.
Anon says
I think the brother is being silly. What’s the point of quarantining if he’s then going to fly to the wedding. That “undoes” the quarantine. That said, I would probably tell my husband to go, especially if I had help from my parents while he was away.
OP says
OP: the brother wants husband to fly, test immediately, then quarantine for 5 days at an airbnb there in other state. So husband would just be sitting there by himself for five days. I’m unclear where he is getting his science from because…yeah.
Anon says
Oh ok. That makes more sense than what I thought he was asking you to do, but I agree it’s silly and overly cautious given that all but one person in attendance is fully vaccinated and the CDC has specifically said the fully vaccinated can gather without masks or other precautions.
Anonymous says
That’s how NH’s rules worked which I thought made sense for car travelers but not for passengers coming via plane. Here, you could quarantine in your home state and then not quarantine on arrival. I guess it greatly reduced the risk to others while traveling which is why our department of health was down with it?
Anonymous says
If the brother is not requiring a quarantine for the second ceremony, it sounds like he’s only concerned about preventing COVID from wrecking his honeymoon. I’d have your husband skip both.
Anonanonanon says
Look, I’m kind of a nut about COVID precautions and I think this is ridiculous. This isn’t in line with public health guidance at all. You all could meet indoors without anyone quarantining at this point! They’re asking too much in a situation of 7 people with everyone but one person fully vaxxed!
Anonymous says
Is brother just toying with your husband? Husband and you are fully vaccinated. Everyone else (except that one person) at the wedding is fully vaccinated. The wedding is outside. Your husband agreed to a 3-day quarantine. Is brother concerned about the flight? Can your husband possibly drive/quarantine while driving? This seems like an undue burden last minute and, to me, says something else is going on. Can your husband talk to his parents/another sibling/the best man and see if it’s something else?
anon says
if your husband is fully vaccinated he does not need to do any kind of quarantine. I don’t know what kind of relationship he has with his brother but I could tell my brother that he is being ridiculous. Why is even having two ceremonies a few weeks apart? None of this makes sense and your DH should tell him so, if their relationship permits it.
OP says
OP: My inlaws have tried and failed to talk sense into brother. Husband has very gently tried talking to him. This is frustrating for me because I am so, so blunt with my immediate family. My general sense is that this requirement is being principally driven by bride’s parents and brother won’t risk asking them or trying to talk to them about it and, his words “even if I didn’t agree with them”. So part bride’s parents but also him.
Anonymous says
Clearly brother wants the bride’s parents there more than he wants his own siblings, so give him what he wants.
Anonymous says
Ha! I’m with you on being blunt with my immediate family. I don’t have the time and energy for dancing around things gently; my siblings are single with no kids, and my dad was a sole-breadwinner type who has no clue how much work is involved in kids, so they are definitely not going to pick up on any subtleties surrounding family life.
Anon says
i don’t understand the point of a second ceremony. are they having one covid safe ceremony and one regular wedding? what if DH agrees to get a test? would that make people comfortable?
Anonymous says
I would have him go so this is over before the baby comes and you can put it behind you. The extra days are annoying but not worth revisiting everything.
On the plus side, this guarantees DH a few nights of great sleep so he can be rested and really lean into giving you an extra break when he gets back. Maybe schedule a distanced coffee or lunch with a friend (or nondistanced if your friends are vaxxed) so you have something to look forward to when he is back. This trip is his pre-baby vacay so take a few days of vacay for yourself when he gets back.
Anonymous says
Yeah I’d let him go then take two nights in a hotel once he’s back
Anon says
Yup this is what I would do too. Have yourself a nice little staycation at a posh hotel.
Anonymous says
This is a great idea! 2-3 days in a hotel, prenatal massage, room service for breakfast in bed. Glorious.
Anonymous says
Oof, it sounds like the brother is in a tough spot trying to appease his future in-laws (and wife), which I can see as a high priority, although I agree these policies make absolutely no sense. Brother may also not have a clue what it means to be 34 weeks pregnant and/or caring for a newborn and toddler. If your husband is willing to do the full week now and wants to go I guess I would encourage him to do that, especially if your parents can stay longer to help you out while he is gone.
I would approach this from the angle of which decision will I regret more 5 years from now? COVID is making people nuts in different ways, and I’m trying to err on the side of preserving relationships.
Spirograph says
Weddings really bring out the worst in everyone sometimes. I’m sorry this is adding stress for your family when you already have a lot going on! Brother is being ridiculous, but it sounds like he’s just the messenger for the bride’s parents.
1. how are they not vaccinated? I assume they are older and in a higher priority group. If they are unvaxxed by choice, they do not get to ask people to add 5 days to their trip, that is total BS.
2. Brother needs to get the bride to talk some sense into her parents. It seems clear he is not the one calling the shots here.
3. Brother is unreasonable and inconsiderate to wait until flights are booked to push the other party as a solution. If *my* brother did that, that’s when I’d cancel the whole thing and tell him I’ll be happy to come celebrate at a time that works better for both of us.
Anon says
I assumed the one unvaxxed person was a child who isn’t yet eligible, but if it’s an adult who is unvaxxed by choice this is even more ridiculous.
Spirograph says
Could be, I assumed it was one of the bride’s parents since they and brother are the ones who have come up with this bonkers requirement.
IL-resident says
WRT #1, a lot of people aren’t fully vaccinated. I’ve had one shot and a lot of people in my state (IL) only became eligible on Monday.
Anonymous says
Here’s my read: this is all super annoying, but at the end of the day, it is the difference of two days. Will two days make that much of a difference for you? Your parents? If not, I’d just roll with it and chalk it up to the COVID crazies.
Anon says
Honestly I think he shouldn’t go and you should also (jokingly) invite them to fly to an event a couple weeks after any potential baby’s due date. :) Maybe he can attend virtually?
Anonymous says
All of this is insane. If you need to require guests to quarantine, you shouldn’t be inviting them.
Anon says
I feel like not enough attention is being paid to the fact that your DH is literally risking missing being there for the baby being born for this, and every day the brother is asking him to extra quarantine is increasing that chance. That is an actual risk vs the almost fake one his brother is making with the vaccinated yet quarantining nonsense (given all the other precautions). I think that is where/why I would start putting my foot down. I’m glad your parents will be there so factually you will be fine, but obviously no one wants DH to miss the birth.
I won’t get into details but I had a situation where my first all of a sudden almost came at 34 weeks after what was otherwise a totally ordinary pregnancy. We were able to keep him in for a few more weeks (and he ended up fine), but it was entirely on the table that he might’ve had to have come out at 34 weeks within hours of the issue. I don’t mean to freak you out, but I think that potential should be a factor here when asked to do something ridiculous.
Anon says
Eh, I think 34 weeks is early to ground your DH from all travel, even if there’s a possibility you’ll go into labor then. If she goes into labor, he flies home. Unless their state has very strict quarantine rules that would prevent him from going straight from the airport to the hospital it doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. My husband traveled for business when I was 35 weeks pregnant and he absolutely would have attended a sibling’s wedding if there had been one scheduled at that time. It’s not like it’s a golf trip with his buddies or something.
Anonymous says
There is very little chance that he would make it home in time for the birth if he tried to hop a flight after she went into labor. Even with unlimited financial resources, there are limitations on the availability of flights, and it takes time to get to the airport, fly, and get home from the airport.
Anon at 11:27 says
+1. If it had been decided that my baby had to come out that day, there is almost 0 chance my husband would have made it in time from anywhere involving a flight to be there for it. Partly because if it is an issue that early on, it’s not necessarily you just “went into labor”, it’s possible it’s an emergency and they need the baby OUT (as was potentially my case).
And I’m not saying that means all husbands should be grounded at a certain early week. Everyone has to assess their own risk tolerance for the low likelihood that something happens early combined with how important the trip is etc. But I think as part of that assessment one needs to be honest with themselves that the idea that the husband could make it home in time is not super realistic, although I’m sure it has happened.
Katala says
+2. My inductions lasted about 12ish hours. One we knew the night before, the second just that morning. Theoretically it was probably possible to make it in time for the birth itself, if everything went perfectly. But man would it have sucked to spend the first 8-10 hours by myself. With the current restrictions on support people, it might not be an option to have someone there for the beginning and swap out when husband arrives.
Anonymous says
She is 34 weeks now, but how far along will she be when husband travels? If he left today, she’d be at 35 weeks before he returned.
Anon says
My point is there is a difference between grounding him and having him unnecessarily be gone for several extra days to appease someone else’s risk anxiety. There is risk of a negative on both ends.
Katala says
This is definitely a concern. I had a similar experience with my first. I was hospitalized – which would obviously be even more of an issue with other kids at home – and the high risk OBs at the hospital were really pushing for me to deliver baby NOW the day I turned 34 weeks. To them, that was early full term and a perfectly fine time for me to deliver. My doc disagreed luckily and I went a few more weeks without issue. But I do think 34 weeks is when the chances of delivering really go up because to many doctors the delivering “too early” assessment flips at that point. It also sounds like the wedding isn’t happening this weekend, so how far along will she be when he is actually gone? Definitely an individual risk assessment, but after delivering both kids at 37 weeks we would not have my husband travel at 35 or 36, likely not at 34, even if I had help.
Boston Legal Eagle says
I’m trying to do the math and it sounds like it will be bride, groom, bride’s parents, groom’s parents + your husband and that’s it? And it sounds like there will be some sort of bigger ceremony in a few weeks? Their request is ridiculous and the timing sucks, but I guess you can agree to have him go now, be there for his brother, and then not worry about any future ceremonies (which will likely be riskier based on the information given, plus of course you’ll have a newborn). Agree that you should book yourself a few solo days in a hotel after he’s back.
anon. says
This is my take. He’s being ridiculous but I’d personally just agree to the first trip and put the kibosh on the second wedding or whatever.
Anonymous says
Your husband should not travel when you have a three-week old. He may be immune to COVID, but he could easily pick up something else while in transit. So I’d rule that out immediately, and then try to make it work with this first ceremony.
Someone needs to explain to brother and his fiancee the facts of life when it comes to pregnancy, childbirth, etc. Remember, they have ZERO clue. My sister-in-law attended my wedding with her four-month-old, and I remember at the time being vaguely annoyed that she was barely present. Now, with two kids, I totally get it. Baby had to eat! And sleep! And we were in the middle of nowhere without much in the way of babysitter options.
What if your husband stays masked? Would they be more comfortable with the existing flights?
Anonanonanon says
How about 3-day quarantine and then he tests? Would that work as a compromise?
Also, I missed how pregnant you are the first time I read this. That just makes adding two days even more ridiculous
Anon says
Kid just turned 3, and has been potty trained (and almost always dry at night) since January. She’s also still in a crib, and isn’t interested in climbing out. I keep putting her in diapers overnight even though she probably doesn’t need them, because I want her contained in the crib. She’s not complaining. It’s fine to ride this out as long as I can right?
Anonymous says
Yes. Absolutely. 100%.
Cb says
Yes, definitely, don’t screw with sleep! Use the bambino mio potty training pants if it makes you feel better about the waste.
Anon says
Your kid will tell you when you can’t. I rode it out as long as possible because I wasn’t ready for the laundry burden of nighttime accidents on top of pandemic parenting. We switched when DD started demanding to wear diapers again during the day (which she would take off to use the potty mind you and then put back on) because she wanted to be a baby (no new baby or other changes just being silly) about 6 months after she had trained and a good 2 months after being dry all night. So we pulled the diapers to eliminate the fighting over day undies and went straight to all undies all the time. Knock on wood, there have only been one or two nighttime accidents since (one on top of me, sigh, perils of co-sleeping most of the time) and it’s probably been 3-4 months.
GCA says
Totally fine! Or, use cloth diapers (if you have any lying around, or can beg/ borrow – don’t buy just for this!) or training underwear.
Anonymous says
Totally fine! We actually did ‘big kid beds’ (twin size) as the 4th birthday present for all 3 kids. About a month before their birthday, take the side off so it is a toddler bed. Then they have to show they are ready for a big kid bed by staying in bed (use gro clock) unless they have to potty. Getting a big kid bed is a huge motivator. I keep the cribs in the basement for a month after their birthdays and explained that they could get put back if they get up. Zero problems with the kids getting up at night after we put them to bed.
OP says
I love this – thank you!
Anonymous says
I think it is fine. FYI some kids never complain or try to climb out – we finally converted our son’s crib to a toddler bed at some point (I think he was 3?) and for a solid 6 months after that he still yelled at us to come get him out of bed every single time. He had no interest in wandering around his room alone.
AwayEmily says
My kids are 3 and 5 and sleep in bunk beds and neither of them has ever gotten out of their beds on their own. I don’t think they realize it is an option.
Anon says
My daughter is 3 and has been sleeping in a toddler bed since last summer, and in the morning she still yells for us to come in her room to get her out of bed. She’s physically able to, she just doesn’t want to, which I’m counting as a blessing for now.
Anon says
Mine turns 3 at the end of this month. Despite how limit-testing she is, she hasn’t once tried to climb out of her crib and she still fits so we’re going to leave it be. I plan on riding it out as long as possible. We’ll be switching her room in the house when she goes go to a “big girl bed” and we’re readying that room now (had to move laundry out of the closet – get some electrical and plumbing work done to cap things off), but we’re taking our sweet time and are in no rush.
Anon. says
Agreed that you’re good to stay in a crib as long as kid isn’t complaining. I’d also say, know your kid re: diapers. We stopped using nighttime diapers after about two weeks in a row of completely dry morning diapers. He was still in a crib for the first couple of months after potty training and I was willing to roll the dice that I’d either have to clean up a mess or he’d wake us up to come get him. And really, even now that he’s in a big kid bed and able to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night alone, he will always scream for help anyways. My kid is part camel and has had exactly one nighttime potty incident and exactly one time has he woken up in the middle of the night to pee in the year since he trained. (And yes, in this regard I feel super lucky and know that it has nothing to do with anything I did – I just got the easy to night train kid.)
Babyproofing says
My LO is clearly thinking about becoming mobile, so it’s time to start babyproofing. No stairs, so we don’t need to worry about that, but I’m a little stumped on what to do about our front load washer. It’s in a little nook off the kitchen without a door, not a laundry room that can be closed off. Is there a lock that will allow the door to be open a little so that it can dry out, but not open so much that a child could climb in or pinch their fingers in the door?
Also, any recommendations for cabinet door locks would be much appreciated!
Anon says
do you own or rent? i went to Lucie’s List for this. we rent an apartment, so also no stairs, and we ended up using two different kinds of locks. one we used requires a magnet to open it and instead of drilling it in, we used the tape they came with to affix them. some of them have fallen off, but my kids are a bit older now so i’m not as worried, but for the ones that did fall off that are in front of a cabinet of anything with chemicals, we replaced with the kind that you can tape on the outside in the same color as our cabinets, so they really aren’t too much of an eye sore. that is what i would probably do for your laundry room. we use something like this, though in brown: https://www.amazon.com/Cabinets-Drawers-Dishwasher-Adhesive-Drilling/dp/B072KPZMMV/ref=asc_df_B072KPZMMV/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198090943423&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13877673796056098723&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027580&hvtargid=pla-360956233107&psc=1
Anonymous says
Thanks! We own – it’s a ranch house.
AwayEmily says
I was coming to recommend this same style (I think ours our originally from Ikea). basically the two parts with a flexible piece of plastic between them. It’s super useful for weirdly-shaped cupboards, washing machines, etc.
Anonymous says
Would a fridge lock work?
Cb says
We use the washing machine bungee (the as seen on tv one) which held the door all the way open, preventing pinching but not crawling in. But I don’t think my kid could or would climb in. And without siblings, no one is going to put him in there. Alternatively, could you gate the nook with one of the wide tension gates?
Anonymous says
I don’t have a washer in my apartment so never dealt with this, but is this something you even need to worry about? If the danger is just pinching, I would not – I focused on things that would either make my life very difficult (e.g. making a huge mess) or a risk of serious injury.
Anon says
I would also not worry about this, but we were very lazy babyproofers.
Anonymous says
Apparently I was constantly trying to crawl into the washing machine when I was a small child (and actually broke the door off as a toddler). Maybe it’ll be a non-issue, but given that it’s right next to the kitchen and a short crawl from LO’s room, I’d rather be prepared.
NYCer says
FWIW, we have a front load washer and did not worry about it. I am also a lazy babyproofer though.
DLC says
I feel like I need a gut check here-
I just discovered that my third grader has unrestricted access to YouTube via google slides on her school’s Chromebook. In general YouTube is blocked on the school’s devices and on her school Google account, but some kids figured out this loophole where if you open google slides (which is how they do homework these days) you can imbed and watch videos directly from YouTube.
I can’t figure out if this is really a problem? Or if I should write to her school about it? My first instinct was this is not okay and the school needs to set up better restrictions, but… My child is unlikely to go search out inappropriate content (though content I find banal and insipid is another issue….), and from what my child says, it is very common among her classmates, so I do wonder if the teachers and administrators already are aware about it? . There is something I find really insidious about the way YouTube just auto-plays video after video. I also think I’m a little sensitive about how my kid uses the computer since we get emails from her teacher about her playing video games in class. (I can’t tell if there are ads, but so far, I haven’t seen anything.)
In my ideal world she could just go back to doing her assignments with pen and paper, but it’s hardly an ideal time in education right now.
Do we think this is just a “let it go and stop being old fashioned” kind of thing? Or is there something I should say/do/ask?
Anon says
I would say something, but I skew paranoid about this stuff.
Anon luddite says
YouTube is a huge no in our house precisely because of the auto-play, the insipidity, the distraction and ultimately the danger they’d run across something they can’t un-see. I’m not sure how to handle it (we chose our school specifically because they don’t do anything screen-based), but I would NOT say “let it go and stop being old fashioned.”
Anon says
I don’t have any great insight into what to specifically do about a loophole, but just to concur I also hate YouTube for my 5 and 6 year olds and we ban them from watching it, even the kid version and even on the TV (not a device or computer). For context we are fairly liberal in the pandemic world about other shows and video games.
I agree, it’s the endless loop that keeps playing that does something to their brains. You can literally see it affecting their attention span in real time. I also HATE the user generated crap on there and it makes me super nervous about what someone could sneak in. It is just the lowest quality of the crap that their brains could be consuming. It’s a bummer because my kids love the show “The Land Before Time” and as far as I know YouTube is our only method for watching it, but nope.
Ha. End rant. I guess I have Thoughts. If I were you I would maybe say something to the school.
Anon says
The Land Before Time is on DVD if you’re willing to invest in those. I think it might also be on Netflix? I don’t know, we don’t have Netflix but my friend says it is.
Anon says
Yeah, maybe we should check out the DVDs. just checked and neither the shows nor the movies are on Netflix. Thanks though :)
DLC says
Our public library has been a great source for out of print DVDs including Land Before Time – maybe see if yours has that option?
Anon says
Netflix has (had?) The Land Before Time movies earlier in the pandemic, not sure if they are still on there.
Anonymous says
I would absolutely shut down this down. Between the advertising, the autoplay, and the videos with inappropriate themes for children, there is zero benefit to having unrestricted access to YouTube in third grade. That’s so, so young.
Anonymous says
My 3rd grader has access to YouTube and uses it a lot, partly for school – most of his videos for asynchronous assignments get posted there. I am not crazy about it but I haven’t figured out an answer. We have rules about the kind of videos he can watch and when, but it is very loosely monitored.
If the school is trying to block it (I can’t tell if that is you or the school blocking it), I would definitely mention it to the teacher.
Anonymous says
I am more relaxed about screen time than most here, and I’d probably still say something to the school in this case. They probably have no idea.
Anon says
I’d say something but not in a demanding “change this now” kind of way. I’d give the school a heads up if they don’t know, see if they can close the loophole and if they can’t, ask that they warn parents so parents can offer closer supervision to avoid YouTube issues. My response would only be this lenient because of the reality that the schools are trying to do their best without a lot of time to research in the middle of a pandemic. I feel like this would balance the reality of the situation with my need for my kid to be safe online.
FVNC says
My otherwise staid, hard-to-ruffle husband, who has formerly prosecuted child abuse and p–n cases, has flipped his lid in similar situations related to internet access…so just based on that, I know we’d be raising it with the school.
Io says
Oh yeah I’d say something.
My kid gets to watch some YouTube crafting videos, but always with an adult. The other day she got diet ads about “toxic” poop in colons and those awful diet teas. She was like, “Really?” With shock and horror before I could skip the ad.
I’ve been trying to teach her that advertisments lie to get money, but some of these diet ones have “doctor” testimonials.
Momofthree says
If the expectation is that they shouldn’t be accessing YouTube then I think you definitely should raise it with the school.
I realize that YouTube is incentivized to do the exact opposite because of ads but I would love if they created a school safe link option where you could only watch the video that is linked to directly.
We’re currently facing the opposite problem with my kids where all of their assignments have links to YouTube videos but the school provided devices block all YouTube so we end up having to look up the link on our phones.
I really wish there wasn’t good educational content on there- especially for foreign languages- because there is so much trash and grandparents are particularly susceptible to begging but also difficult to police.
Anonymous says
I would say something but also not expect they change it. Ours had a similar issue and it has been very challenging from an IT perspective to address the issue.
Anonanonanon says
I would say something!
I caught my kid watching youtube during class recently and was so surprised it was accessible! Never occurred to me! I told him he had to do school with the volume all the way up, no headphones, and his door open for the rest of the week after that. I wore noise-canceling headphones because it was annoying, but he didn’t know that.
Anon says
Also, I’d be shocked if they didn’t know. This came up immediately in our district when we started e-learning. It’s a common thing – they should know
DLC says
Thanks for all the comments and thoughts! All of your perspectives are helpful – I’m a bit of a Luddite, so I’m never quite sure what is reasonable in our modern digital world. FWIW – it’s the school system that blocks direct access to YouTube on the devices, and at the same time, our children are not allowed to bring personal computers to school, so they have to use the school provided Chromebook. (m kids are back to in person learning) I do agree that it would have been nice if parents were given more guidance on what the devices were letting their children access. This whole pandemic, the message has been “we will work with you to do what is best for your children”, but I’m not find that to be the case. It’s so frustrating, because I know everyone – Teachers, administrators, support staff – is just doing their best with a very sucky and overburdened situation.
Anonymous says
I gotta tell you- my 2nd grader watches YouTube now and while I do hate the endless cake decorating videos she watches…she actually wants to decorate cakes now. She put a “spinny plate” on her birthday list so she can be better at frosting. And she also watches “how to” videos for things like drawing and crazy Rainbow Loom crafts. I am a hard NO on watching unboxing videos and watching other people play video games [she doesn’t do either as far as i know- at least not enough that I notice, and I do pay attention], but I kind of like that she comes to me asking if I can sit there while she tries to braid my hair in a new crazy way she was learning on youtube.
So Anon says
Any recommendations for plain white t-shirts for kids? I need basic white t-shirts to send with my kids to camp. They don’t need to be the best, but also not see through.
Anonymous says
Whatever is on sale at Target
Anonymous says
If this is for tie-dye activities, be sure to get 100% cotton. Boys’ undershirts work well for this.
Anonymous says
My first thought was tie dye, too. Agreed, get some generic Hanes / Jockey / whatever’s on sale undershirts.
Anon says
Suggestions for virtual teacher appreciation gifts? We were specifically told not to give money or things of value (the school is funding treats, meals, flowers, etc.) and because of Covid rules it has to be virtual so kiddo can’t “make” a craft. I guess I will do a nice note and photo (although since it’s a pandemic I don’t have any photos of my kid with the teacher and I doubt they really want a photo of just my kid) but if anyone has any better ideas I’d love to hear.
Anonymous says
If the school is doing treats, meals, and flowers, all you need to add is a nice note.
Anon says
I guess you could send a photo of a picture/card your kid makes?
Anon says
Or make the art on the computer. My husband does computer art with my daughter using MS Paint. I think my daughter would be sad if she made a physical card and then couldn’t hand it to the teacher, but she would be perfectly happy to make some art on the computer.
ElisaR says
how old are your kids? i feel like you could maybe video an “interview” with your kid about their teacher? maybe they will say miraculously cute and sweet things which I imagine the teacher would LOVE.
Weaning Q says
Which kind of band-aids should I use for minimal pain? We had the last feed last night. I cried a river the entire day and night but woke up a little relieved to have them back and to hand off bedtime for a few weeks.
Anon says
I’ve never heard of using band-aids to alleviate weaning pain. I weaned pretty gradually but it was a non-event for me, at least physically. I think I felt slightly full for a day or two and then it subsided. And I was very prone to clogs when I was nursing.
Anonymous says
Huh?
Anon says
I think autocorrect may have changed your question but if you’re weaning you can take sudafed to help.
AnonIVF says
Guys, I don’t think auto-correct changed the question. What kind of “band aid” (temporary fix) should she use for weaning? Compresses? Compression? Herbal tea? etc.
(Have never weaned so can’t help)
Anon says
It’s confusing because putting literal band-aids on your n*pples actually is a thing, but it’s primarily a way to discourage your kid from wanting to nurse, which sounds like is not an issue for her.
OP says
Oh gosh, I’m so embarrassed I wasn’t clear enough the first time – I was trying to avoid typing the words!
I am going to put band-aids on my actual n*pples in case I get a tug on my shirt from LO looking for the goods tonight. Which I read about here (Or at least I thought I did). Bedtime feed was the last to go, so all of these comments are helpful too… Now I’m feeling embarrassed even underneath a cloak of internet anonymity. KBYE.
Jeffiner says
Don’t be embarrassed. We all have nipples, and many of us had kids nursing on them. Could you stuff nursing pads in your bra to block them?
Anon says
Just an FYI for those of you with teens, in my state they are unofficially giving Pfizer to kids under 16. I don’t really understand why this is possible but I know multiple people who have gotten kids as young as 13 vaccinated in the last week. I guess ultimately there’s no law against giving the vaccine to a child of any age as long as the parents consent (just like pregnant women aren’t officially approved but can get it if they want) and a lot of parents are comfortable consenting for teens. My kid is only 3 so we’ll be waiting until there’s data at least for elementary age kids, but if I had a teenager I would definitely get them vaccinated now.
Anonymous says
What state and how are the parents doing this? Do they have to fudge the birthdates?
Anon says
Indiana. No, they didn’t lie. Officially the state says you have to be 16+ or 18+ depending on the vaccine, but the people I know just called local pharmacies with Pfizer and asked if they could have their under-16 children vaccinated and the pharmacy said yes. My understanding is that the state is not promoting vaccination except in people over 16, but technically there’s no law against vaccinating younger people so the pharmacies will do it if the parents request. Supply is abundant here (all our local pharmacies have same day appointments) so no issues taking away a vaccine from an elderly person.
Anonymous says
Not so in VA. You can’t book an appointment unless you give a birth date that would make the person at least 16.
Anon says
Even with the pharmacies participating in the federal retail pharmacy program? Here, they’re independent from the state and the state booking system is only for the health department clinics and hospitals. If you want an appointment at a Walgreens, you just call Walgreens directly.
Anonymous says
Yes, the pharmacy asks for the birth date when you try to book the appointment directly.
Anonymous says
Are they part of a trial? I thought Pfizer was being trialed/studied with 12-15 year olds? There was a whole discussion here a couple weeks ago about if people would let their kids participate and at what age.
Anon says
No, I know a couple people with kids in trials but this is not part of a trial. The Pfizer 12-15 trial returned results already! 100% effective. Pfizer and Moderna are both doing trials in kids as young as 6 months now, so I’m hopeful I won’t have to wait until mid-2022 to vaccinate my preschooler. It will probably be another 6 months or so though.
RDC says
Ditto in our state in a local public health vaccination drive. Kids as young as 13 are vaccinated if they show up with a parent to consent. (I don’t know if there’s a firm cut-off, but 13 was the youngest I saw while volunteering.)
Anon says
This is an interesting/encouraging article. Yes, the last year has been hard for kids, but they will ultimately take their cues from their parents and have likely developed new skills and resilience to help balance out the cons
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/11/health/pandemic-middle-school-mental-health.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
LadyNFS says
Some posters commented on Friday about selling or buying kids’ shoes (I think maybe Keen’s)? Where are you all doing this (if you are)? Feedback and tips appreciated!
Boston Legal Eagle says
I haven’t sold kids’ shoes specifically but I’ve used Facebook marketplace, specified for my town and surrounding towns, to sell lots of baby and kid gear.
DLC says
I do it on my local parent’s listserv. It’s definitely Keens season there!
anonamama says
Poshmark for me! Don’t be afraid to offer, and ask for more photos. I recently picked up new in box Native Jeffersons for $22 with shipping. I also bought the plastic version of the Brannock device for help measuring at home (and then sometimes googling the actual inches in a shoe model if it’s a new to me brand).
Anonymous says
We