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And — here are some of our latest threadjacks of interest – working mom questions asked by the commenters!
- If you’re a working parent of an infant with low sleep needs, how do you function at work when you’re in the throes of baby’s sleep regression?
- Should I cut my childcare down to 12 hours a month if I work from home?
- Will my baby have speech delays if we raise her bilingual?
- Has anyone given birth in a teaching hospital?
- My child eats everything, and my friends’ kids do not – how should I handle? In general, what is the best way to handle when your child has some skill/ability and your friend’s child doesn’t have that skill/ability?
- ADHD moms, give me your tips to help with things like behavior in the classroom, attention to detail, etc?
- I think I suffer from mom rage…
- My husband and kids are gone this weekend – how should I enjoy my free time?
- I’m struggling to be compassionate with a SAHM friend who complains she doesn’t have enough hours of childcare.
- If you exclusively formula fed, what tips do you have for in the hospital and coming home?
- Could I take my 4-yo and 8-yo on a 7-8 day trip to Paris, Lyon, and Madrid?
Jdubs says
How much housework do you expect from your nanny in addition to child care? With our previous nanny, we would get home and our house was SPOTLESS. With our new one, there are crumbs on the table from lunch/snacks, dishes piled in the sink from lunch/snacks, and toys everywhere. During our interview I discussed that light housework was included – particularly cleaning up after the kids, but I’m not sure if the previous nanny set our expectations too high and what she is providing now is normal.
Anonymous says
How old are your kids? How does the house look after YOU watch them for a day on the weekend?
Asking because when my LO was a year old, she was MUCH easier to clean up after than she is now at 2. Less napping, moves faster, throws farther, etc. If you can manage to tidy up after your kid, then you should expect the same of your nanny. She shouldn’t be watching TV or on her phone during your kid’s nap.
If you decide you’d like her to get more done, perhaps you can frame it as helping the kid do more to tidy up. For example, when I’m on kid duty, my 2 year old “helps” with the dishes. Or “sweeps” while I clean the rest of the kitchen. She also “folds” laundry (this one is almost out of quotes– she can almost fold a washcloth…). I do NOT have her watch TV while I do the chores. I had her picking up sticks in the yard over the weekend and that was actually helpful! She has her own little wheelbarrow.
Jdubs says
i totally agree that it was easier to clean up when they are smaller. Kids are 2 & 4… 2 year old takes a 2 hour nap during the day before they pick up 4 year old at school… then she tends to let them watch TV (another issue…) while waiting for me to get home. So there is plenty of downtime for her.
Anonymous says
If you’re paying market rate, I’d raise it as an issue with her. If you’re getting a bargain on the rate, and the kids are safe, I’d (personally) be fine with it. Kind of like the nannies that ask to bring their kids along– for the right price, i’d be fine.
Anon says
Unless it was part of the job description, I wouldn’t expect the house to be cleaner than when I left it. But it sounds like your’s is significantly worse. With the caveat of what the previous anonymous said (is it physically possible to both care for your kids and keep the house clean?), I would expect her to clean up basic messes that were made during the day (wipe down the counter, put dishes in the dishwasher, make the kids pick up their toys, etc.).
Eileen says
We expected ours to do basic clean up after my son, but not do any other cleaning, so she’d clean his dishes and put them away, wipe up after meals, and get any egregious crumbs on the floor. If you told her light housekeeping was required in the interview, you might have to let her know you meant the dishes, crumbs, etc.
First Pregnancy says
Any thoughts on compression maternity tights versus regular maternity tights? Did anyone wear compression tights and feel they helped with swelling and varicose veins? I’m just getting to the 2d trimester and trying to plan for the winter. Moderators, any previous posts on compression tights? Thanks!
NewMomAnon says
I wore compression tights in my third tri because I had a ton of swelling. They helped with the swelling, but man, they were a pain to put on and take off (especially since I had to go to the bathroom every 5 minutes). I ended up wearing compression socks under regular (maternity) tights since my swelling was mostly in my lower legs.
Short story: I wouldn’t wear them unless I needed to wear them. Maybe others have different views.
I don’t know that there are moderators on this site; sometimes helpful people remember older threads and post links though.
MSJ says
I wore them on Dr’s suggestion in the first sign of varicose veins. I used thigh highs so that I didn’t need to get something maternity specific. Also easier to go the bathroom in! They were a pain to get on in the morning and I was due in August so I wouldn’t have worn them unless I had to. But my veins didn’t get worse so they worked and we’re worth it
layered bob says
I loved the spanx maternity nylons for work – much better than the others I tried. They are not compression.
But I had compression socks (really ugly knee high ones) in case I needed them in the third tri. I didn’t, but I did need them after I got home from the hospital – I had terrible swelling in my calves and ankles.
Famouscait says
Coming here to vent excitement and anxiety! My boss just approached me about an interim position that is a trial for a real promotion!! Still a lot of bugs to work out but the prospect is exciting. Also scary. My son will be 1 this month, so its a good time to lean waaayyy in, right?!?
anon says
Of course it is!! You never know until you try it :)
Anonymous says
totally agree–i got 2 promotions between the time i had my baby and the time she was 2 years old. it ended up being more stress but less in-the-office time…and way more money.
Famouscait says
Thanks. I appreciate hearing this.
anon says
When DH and I decided we were going to have kids, we had The Discussion in September, and I went off BC. We started actively trying (tracking my cycles and timing accordingly) in Dec, and I got pregnant in January (2 months of trying). We decided this summer to start trying for #2, so we’ve been trying actively since July. Just got my period again and I don’t know if this is just how things go and we got majorly lucky last time, or if we should be doing something different/more aggressive. Trying for 4 months doesn’t crazy, but I’m 4 years older than I was last go-around (under 35 though), a lot more stressed out, and this is majorly bumming me out..
Syd says
Yes, you got lucky. I also found zero correlation between pregnancies (first baby it was over a year of trying, second baby fell pregnant immediately after going off bc). Both times I was well under 35. Up to a year is considered “normal” although I completely understand your frustration! It’s hard to wait once you decide you are ready. I’d give it a couple more months and then bring up your concerns with your OB.
anon says
4 months is totally normal! Frustrating, yes, but worrisome, no. Anecdata that may be comforting: Took us 5 months both times — so not right away, but not a long time either. Definitely felt like the longest 5 months ever, but it still worked. And this was with charting, temping, OPKs, etc. If you’re not doing those things, you might want to try (I found parts of Taking Charge of your Fertility pretty helpful). Keeping the charts made me feel like I at least knew what was going on — and it can help determine whether there might be a problem (you’ll know if you’re ovulating, you’ll know when in the cycle it is, etc.)
Anon says
This sounds so similar to me. Maybe try a weekend or week away. Just have a few drinks and lots of s*x. At a minimum it may reduce your stress levels a bit. I really regret not taking more couples weekends when we just had one kiddo as grandparents are way less willing to do more than an evening out now that there are two. At under35 and only 4 months of trying there is probably nothing major wrong.
EB0220 says
I had a very similar experience. Tried for 2 months with my first. Never went back on birth control after #1 and it took 6 months after my period returned to conceive #2. I was getting worried, but (for what it’s worth) it happened when I was relaxed and happy.
In House Lobbyist says
We got pregnant the first month with baby 1 and it took 5 months with baby 2. And I was older than 35. The fourth month I bought the daily ovulation test kit and was pregnant the next month.
STD help please says
Help me understand short-term disability, as that is my company’s dominant (only?) maternity leave option. Are the 6 weeks for reg/8 weeks for c-section standard, or does that vary from insurer to insurer or doctor to doctor? Our HR person basically said I could take whatever the doc said I should take, with a max up to 12 weeks. Which sounds great, unless that’s only 6 weeks (I’m trying to get to 10). I’ve tried using the google but it gets complicated really fast, and it seems like I can’t find out exactly what our policy covers until it’s time to use it. To clarify, this is an STD policy offered through my employer, not a state one. And I do know we have a 1-week waiting period, during which I’ll use accrued sick time.
Famouscait says
The amount of covered time for vag birth vs. c section is set by the policy – not your doctor. However, your employer can place restrictions on when you can use STD, for example, not until you’ve exhausted all sick time, etc. You need the details of the policy from the insurer, and input from your HR as to how it works at your company, with regards to other leave time (if any). Hope this helps!
anon says
With our STD policy, though, if there had been complications that made me “sick” for a longer period, the policy would have covered a longer time. I didn’t have any complications, so 6 weeks it was.
FVNC says
My policy was the same — STD covered up to 20 weeks if “medically necessary” — but the standard “medical requirement” after a birth was defined as 6 weeks (vaginal) or 8 weeks (c-section). So if there had been a medical reason for me to need more than 6/8 weeks, I would have been covered under the policy.
As it was, I was able to get 8 weeks paid under the policy, then cobbled together a mixture of vacation time and unpaid leave after that 8 weeks for a total of 13 or 14 weeks of total leave.
CHJ says
I think it is specific to each insurance company. For me personally, the insurance company covered 6 weeks for a regular delivery, and 8 weeks for a C-section. I did have a C-section, and about halfway through my leave the insurance company called and asked if I wanted/needed an additional 4-8 weeks. I would have needed a doctor’s note, but it was pretty clear that the insurance company would have approved it automatically. (I didn’t get to take them up on it because work wanted me back, unfortunately!).
All that said, I would call the insurance company and find out, and also ask your doctor. And also see what you can do about unpaid leave if you can swing it.
Clementine says
I’m sure a number of people here could tell you about their experiences with Short Term Disability; however, it comes down to this:
It depends on your policy, your employer, and your individual situation. What is relevent for me (e.g., must use all accrued sick time plus a 14 day waiting period) sounds like it’s not relevant for you. If HR isn’t giving you good enough answers, either ask more questions or get the direct phone number to the insurance company.
I just don’t want you to be assuming your policy is like someone else’s when it is in fact more or less generous.
Famouscait says
+1 to this. I also want to add that it matters what calendar year you’re looking at taking STD. My employer made important rule changes (e.g., must use all accrued sick time plus a 14 day waiting period) from one year to the next. So if you’re looking to enroll for next year, you may need to specify that.
STD help please says
Thanks, this is helpful. Sounds like I need to just get on the phone with the insurer to get some straight answers.
Meg Murry says
I agree that it depends on your individual company policy and insurance policy. When you asked HR, was it a quick email or hallway conversation? I had to schedule a sit down meeting with out HR to go over all the details – what forms I had to fill out, who I had to call, what my doctor had to fill out, etc.
Are you eligible for FMLA? At my company we got paid for STD only as long as the doctor recommended (the standard 6 or 8 weeks as mentioned above, complications could get you longer STD approval with more paperwork) and then the rest of the time off we could take with FMLA – up to 12 weeks total for STD+FMLA. The FMLA time was unpaid, unless you wanted to use PTO to get paid for part of it.
Our HR made me a nice color coded calendar to show me which days were which (STD, unpaid FMLA, PTO, paid holidays, etc), using my due date as a sample – and then she gave that calendar to our admin so the admin could put in my time properly in the timecard/payroll software. This was at a large company where there were 4 of us all going out on maternity leave in one quarter though – I don’t know that a smaller company would be so detailed.
STD help please says
That color coded calendar sounds like a dream! That’s exactly what I want.
Not eligible for FMLA, small company. I had a sit down meeting with our HR person, but it was still super vague with a lot of what-ifs and basically word searching policy documents to see what might be included. We are so small that our definition of HR is a bit…creative. What I initially was told made me pretty happy, but I’m realizing how it could be much less generous once I look into the details.
anon says
STD is paid leave; will the company let you take additional unpaid leave? Is HR telling you “you get as much time off as the doctor allows” or “our policy will only pay you for the amount of time your doctor allows?”
STD help please says
Company will let me take additional unpaid leave. And I think it’s the latter – the policy will only pay you for the amount of time your doctor allows – after that I can take additional leave, but it’s not paid. Although I don’t have to use all accrued sick time first before using STD, so can use that after STD to “buy” a few more weeks.
This ish is complicated.
I’m also trying to figure out if I want to ask for any paid leave – we’ve gone through a major organizational change in the last few years, with a change in leadership and a growth spurt in our staff, but our maternity policy (or lack thereof) hasn’t changed at all in at least a decade, and I think it’s a good time to make a proposal. But I also don’t want to ask for too much or too little if I’m going to be the first one to ask, so was trying to get a good handle on what the current situation is before moving forward. Which is turning out to be more complicated than I realized.
Anon says
I went back and forth and agonized on whether to ask for any paid leave and finally decided nothing was going to change in this country with the abominable family leave policy unless people started asking. I did some research and asked for 2 weeks paid, or essentially the STD waiting period (with the knowledge that others had asked and received that in the past at my company, which technically has a no-paid-maternity-leave policy). I figured it wasn’t an egregious enough “ask” that they were going to fire me for it or ding me professionally, so the worst thing that could happen is they would say “no”.
STD help please says
This is exactly what I’m thinking. I’m one of the more senior females (of childbearing age) at the organization, and almost feel like it’s my responsibility to ask for the policy to be changed just because those in lower ranks don’t feel like they have the power or seniority to do so.
Meg Murry says
FYI, make sure you save up a good amount of that sick leave for after you get back, unless you accrue sick leave quickly. Especially if you are sending baby to daycare. Daycare germs mean babies will get every bug that comes aroung, and then give those bugs to you. I missed a lot of work due to either me or baby being sick that first year – and that even with my husband and mother taking more than 1/2 of the baby sick day duty.
AEK says
Ugh, as someone who dragged her very sick butt into work today, this comment hits home. I have had about 10 colds (or one long one?!) since the baby started daycare and it is bumming me out. I am trying not to miss work, but I can’t take all the medicines I would otherwise because of nursing. I am So. Worn. Down. Luckily I can keep myself pretty well quarantined from my coworkers and not be the office germ vector.
Meg Murry says
Ugh, I hear you AEK. However, after learning my lesson and trying to “power through it” I’ve since learned that it makes much more sense for me to take the sick day, stay home and get some much needed sleep and get over it than to keep dragging myself to work, getting more and more run down and accomplishing less and less because I was so fuzzy-headed.
Barring that, if you are still feeling miserable, can you cancel everything for the weekend and just spend all day Saturday in bed? Ask your H to bring the baby to you to nurse and then take him back away when done, and just get as much sleep as you possibly can in those 24-48 hours. It really helps.
Lyssa says
I used to process STD claims for a major carrier. Six weeks post-partum is standard. Some policies have 8 weeks for a c, but I wouldn’t say it’s standard (around 1/2, I’d say). There is also usually a 7-14 day waiting period (called an “elimination period”) before benefits kick in (so, if you go out of work the day that you deliver, you would have 1-2 weeks of no STD pay, then receive benefits for the 4-5 weeks after birth). If you have complications that justify going out of work earlier, you can start that leave earlier, and this would not change the 6 weeks pp (unless you run into the maximum STD period, which is usually 12-26 weeks). Most policies pay 60-66% of your usual pay. Many employers allow you to use your sick/vacation time to cover the elimination period and the unpaid portion of your salary, but that’s up to the individual employer.
Unless there are complications or you work in a particularly physically demanding job, what your doc says doesn’t really matter much; it’s usually just standard, although most docs will write 6 or 8 weeks on the forms. (All of our guidelines said something along the lines of “this is the amount of time that is conventional, rather than the amount of time actually based on when the employee can physically do the duties of the job, as would be the case for other procedures or illnesses. FWIW, this is more time than was usually provided for other illnesses/procedures that you would think would require a longer recovery then childbirth.) It was very rare to see someone with complications that took them beyond that time period (and it involved complications that you *really* don’t want to think about!)
STD is different from FMLA, which is up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave (that’s total, not just pp, if you go out early). So, you are entitled to take up to 12 weeks of leave, but only entitled to be paid based on the STD benefit. Some employers offer additional pay as well, after STD ends, but that varies by employer.
Hope that helps. I should really offer to write a guest post about this some time, as often as it comes up! Good luck to you!
STD help please says
This was awesome, thank you!! And yes, I definitely think you should write a guest post on this topic!
Anglophile says
Such a helpful breakdown and timely for me – my eyes were starting to cross yesterday trying to figure out how SDI had calculated my benefits. I’ll echo SDI help please that you should definitely write a guest post!
Jdubs says
Do you qualify for FMLA? My STD ran concurrently with FMLA, so my job was protected for 12 weeks, but I was only paid for 6 weeks of STD. I believe the 6/8weeks is standard and only varies if there are additional complications that require more time.
CHJ says
Shout out to NewMomAnon — I tried your “looking for bunnies” technique for toddler tooth brushing last night, and it totally worked!! DS wanted to look for fish, and kept yelling out colors of fish to look for. But as long as I said I was looking for that fish, he sat still with his mouth wide open. He didn’t want to stop brushing even when I was done. Amazing!
NewMomAnon says
Yay!!! Glad I could make a small dent in the evening struggle.
Anonymous says
We looked for hippos!! She looked dubious that I would find a hippo in her mouth (smart kid!), but she went along for the ride anyway. So much more pleasant than our usual brushing routine.
KJ says
I did it too, except I was looking for doggies and barking when I found them. Easiest tooth brushing session we’ve ever had!
Momata says
I think this discussion and yesterday’s have been my favorites on thiss*te. We are all smart, loving, intuitive moms who know our kids – and it still takes a village to get toddler teeth brushed.
Coach Laura says
When my daughter was little, we saw the workers cleaning the elephants’ teeth with a big toothbrush. After that, we pretended that she was a baby elephant. Worked like magic!
pp weight says
I gained around 30 pounds during pregnancy and was back to my pre-pregnancy weight at around 5-6 months pp. Now, at 10 months pp, I’m back up 8 pounds and holding firm. I eat fairly healthy, but no dieting or anything. Nothing has really changed in my eating habits between 5 months pp and now. I’m still nursing/pumping and plan to do so until the baby is a year old. My supply has been steadily dropping, but when I count, I still get around 15 ounces/day, so I figure I’m still getting some of the calorie-burning benefits. Has anyone had this happen? It’s extremely frustrating that my weight shot back up when nothing obvious has changed.
Maddie Ross says
Mine didn’t shoot back up until I was done nursing, but I had the similar experience of dropping it quickly (actually got down below pre-preg weight) and then gained about 5-7 pounds back and can.not.lose.them. (Ok, I shouldn’t be so dire, I’m only working out lightly (elliptical 4-5 times a week) and not cutting back calories as much as I could (still have a glass of wine a couple nights a week – but I was surprised to settle back in at a weight above pre-preg after losing everything and not really doing anything else different.) So no advice, but commiseration.
NewMomAnon says
Yes! I was back at my pre-baby weight by 9 months pp, but over the last year have gained 16 pounds. I’m pretty sure it’s due to binge eating junk food while simultaneously cutting back on nursing and not adding exercise. I finally started using LoseIt and cracked open a Fitbit I found in the last housing move. It’s been helpful so far I think? I have reduced the junk food and I’m being much more mindful about getting in steps/exercise. But only 1 week in, so I can’t make any sweeping statements.
AEK says
Baby travel tips? I have a (necessary) trip with my 9MO coming up and it includes a 4-hour plane ride, rental car, and a hotel stay (not with family). He is BF’ing still and eating solids too. I am especially interested in any products you find indispensable (high chair? feeding supplies? entertainment?) and tips for the plane ride. The baby is *SO* active I am terrified of trying to keep him still for 4 hours on a plane— he wants to be crawling and standing / creeping all the time. Thanks for any advice!
anon says
At that age I would bring baby food you know he will like. I don’t travel with a high chair because I think it’s easier just to manage, and you already have so much stuff to lug around. As far as plane rides – I would plan on packing a lot of different things. 9 months is a tough age. Is he self feeding yet? You could bring some cheerios for practice. I would pack up lots of little dollar store items in a little bag for the baby to explore (flash cards, play jewelry, little things to open and close). On one flight somebody gave my baby a little mini flashlight thing (kind of like a laser pointer but it was just a light, not a laser), and she was totally obsessed with it. A roll of painter’s tape is fun (even just putting tape on yourself is funny to a baby). Wrapping things adds a couple of minutes to the game. A toy cell phone (or just an old cell phone). Empty water bottles.
Also, I have definitely let my kids crawl down the aisle of an airplane. I know it’s gross, but sometimes it’s just what you have to do.
CHJ says
A few tips that have made things easier for me:
– Wear your baby through the airport in a carrier. It will be so nice to have your hands free.
– You can ship diapers, wipes, and food ahead of time to the hotel via Diapers.com or Amazon. Call the hotel to let them know, and the box should be waiting for you upon arrival.
– For entertainment, get some mini Play Doh containers. You can stick the Play Doh to the tray table and then stick plastic toys into the Play Doh. DS finds this fascinating. (Plus the toys don’t roll off the tray because they’re stuck in Play Doh.)
– Flap books are great. Check out the Playtown series.
– If your baby is having trouble falling asleep, try putting him in a carrier and walking up and down the aisle.
Good luck! Traveling with DS was a challenge at first, but now it’s really fun and we all love it!
Lyssa says
We found Puffs (or any easy finger food – I call the Puffs “baby crack” though because my first was so obsessed with them) a lifesaver at that age. Just dole them out one by one, slowly, and it creates enough of a distraction that you can keep them pretty engaged for a while (and the Puffs are pretty much lightly flavored air, so you don’t really have to worry about them eating too many). Definitely get a full container for the plane.
Us Too! says
We totally call Puffs “baby crack” too!
EB0220 says
I echo most of CHJ’s advice!
– Babywearing in the airport. I don’t bother with a stroller at all.
– If I’m checking my main luggage, I use a cross-body messenger bag for my carry-on. Backpacks are OK if you’re only going to wear baby on front.
– Get a Munchie Mug and fill with something baby likes (cheerios, puffs, etc.). Also a water bottle/sippy cup – good for drinking or chewing.
– Definitely ship ahead anything you can (diapers, wipes, food)
– Bring some medicine on the plane (baby tylenol at a minimum)
– Change of clothes for each of you in carry on is always recommended, but I rarely do it! I’m lazy.
– Bring baby’s blanket or lovey.
– Ask for an airplane blanket to stick under your elbow for when you’re nursing. Otherwise, it’s very uncomfortable to rest your arm on the airplane armrest for hours.
– At that age, I usually just nurse as much as I can on the flight…it’s the only time my baby is reasonably still!
– I usually rent a carseat from the rental car place, although I know others don’t like to do that because of safety concerns.
– Don’t worry too much. Traveling alone with my baby always restores my faith in humanity. People are so nice, accommodating and understanding. It’s really wonderful.
EB0220 says
Oh, the hotel will usually have a Pack N Play you can use. Bring a sheet!!! Also, white noise on your phone is super helpful for noisy hotels.
TBK says
To all the people on my flight yesterday who said “oh, it’s okay — please don’t worry” when I apologized for my frenzied hell spawn’s shrieking thrashing ear-splitting complete and total sweaty, teary, snotty meltdown 10 minutes before landing (and all through taxiing), thank you. To my hell spawn, being a baby is just so hard sometimes and I’m sorry I made you fly when you clearly hadn’t had enough breakfast or sleep. I hope the very slimy cuddles you gave me post-freak out helped because you are such a sweet monkey even when you’re screaming right. in. my. ear.
NewMomAnon says
I cracked up in my office. The last two times I have flown with my little monster, the flight home has been touch and go up until landing, when she freaks the f* out. I consider it a victory if I can keep her from screaming until we are landing. I think it’s a combination of being on best behavior the whole trip (both times have been to visit aging family/funerals and she was so, so good), not sleeping enough, and having her whole schedule tossed aside. Gritting my teeth through the flight home freak out is now part of my traveling plans for flying with a toddler.
TBK says
This is the fourth time we’ve flown with them and usually they’ve been fine (when they were four months old, the other one spent the first 30 min of the flight screaming, but somehow the frequency of 4 month old screams was such that it was mostly muffled by the engine noise — not so 18 mo old screams). It is so, so awesome to be the person boarding with not just one but TWO toddlers/babies. It’s extra awesome when one of them does the full freak-out beyond even what anyone nearby feared might happen.
hoola hoopa says
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