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Alli says
Hi ladies! My daughter this morning was sad because, “The summer is supposed to feel like one long weekend, but it feels like we have to get up for school every day!” My kids are in summer camp from 8-5 because I work FT, duh. I lightly pointed out that summer camp is fun, and she has no tests or homework, so that’s a difference from school, but I’d be interested if you all have any ideas for making summer feel more “summery” when your kids are in full-day camps. Thank you!
Anon says
well for starters, idk who told her summer is supposed to feel like one long weekend, but i don’t think that’s necessarily true. So some reframing for starters. My mom worked full time when i was a kid and i also went to summer camp all day. Make a summer bucket list of fun things she wants to do, swim during the week, and eat more ice cream, have some lazy weekends etc
Anonymous says
Our Kinder teacher definitely drilled home “summer break”. My LO was very disillusioned, but I provide constant reminders of the pure joy that is summer camp. He literally rode a horse and had an ice cream truck visit in the first two days. He is starting to come around. Also, I had bought him the wrong water shoes apparently and correcting that faux pas helped as well.
Alli says
+1, I think it comes from how they talk about summer break at school.
Anon says
I don’t know if this helps, but kids always seem to want what they don’t have, especially when it comes to summer. If she weren’t in camp she’d just be whining about being bored.
Anon says
Whenever I would complain about going to camp, my (working) mom would tell me she wasn’t allowed to go to camp because she had a SAHM and she spent the whole summer alone watching TV and reading books and it got really lonely and boring. And I appreciated camp a lot more after that. Not sure if your daughter is old enough for that type of reasoning, but it worked for me. Also, ask her what she wants to do on a long weekend and try to build that into your actual weekends? Like a lazy pool day or whatever she likes. And maybe take a day off from work if you can and take her on a special day – I still remember the time my mom took off work and we spent the day at a local amusement park when I was about 7!
anon says
+1
One of my BFFs is a SAHM and her kids gripe every week that they’re not in camp doing something more fun than being at home.
Bottom line, moms can’t win, and kids are always going to want what they don’t have.
Anon says
We gave my kid the choice between staying home with grandparents and doing camp, and she chose a mix, which is what we did. And she has STILL found ways to complain.
Brooklyn Mom says
For us, since summer camp pickup is an hour earlier than afterschool pick up, and it’s light out so late, we do something fun right after pickup a couple of times a week. Go to the playground with friends getting off the same bus, get ice cream (especially when I know dinner will be late), pick up pizza and hang out on a friend’s stoop. The only downside is that there is extra whining on the days that we go directly home.
Anon me too says
Oh boy I have this too. We even got lots of whining about having to go to the afterschool program cause she would spot other kids in the playground with Nannies or parents. I try not to give this a lot of oxygen personally because once my kid (almost 6) senses it’s a button to push it will get worse. I listen to her feelings but redirect. Also asking about camp and friends at camp and being super interested in the response. Singing the songs with her etc.
Anonymous says
I am much more chill about night time routines in summer. Way more likely to go to the pool or playground or library after a quick dinner of cold cuts cheese and veggies. I don’t mind sending a kid to camp tired from too much fun the way I do school. I also try and make sure we get to swim a lot
Anon says
+1
Anonymous says
Serious question tho – how do you deal with the sleeping in? To get to work on time, we need to be out the door by 7:15. This leads to a lot of crankiness, so we’re working on scaling back the late nights as much as I hate to.
Anonymous says
I tell them up and at em and power through, and when they’re really grumpy I say no we can’t go out tonight you were too grumpy this morning.
anon says
Can you work from home? With upper elementary school kids and a generic camp (not an expensive specialty camp), I’d let my kids skip some mornings to play independently while I worked from home. I’d drop them at camp during my lunch break. A little time bored at home can feel good.
I usually battle camp resistance by choosing camps that my kids really want to attend. They are so excited to go, it’s easy to get them out the door. I get a lot more refusal and complaints if I book camps that are convenient for me, but not favorites.
Anon says
+1 or look for camps that start at 9? 8 am does seem a little early for the summer.
Alli says
The 8:00 start time is actually for a pre-camp activity, so that’s a fair point. But for a FT working parent whose hours are 9-5, a 9 am start time for camp doesn’t really work, assuming the commute is longer than 30 seconds.
Anon says
you can normally drop around 8:45 for a 9 am camp. Definitely doesn’t work if you have a long commute or need to be at work well before 9, but lots of working parents use camps that start at 9.
anon says
Is it summer swim team? We have to be out of the house by 7:20 AM every morning so they can be in the pool by 7:40 to swim laps for an hour. It’s our first time this year and it certainly is a different rhythm to the summer. The kids love it, but also miss having slow summer mornings. Fortunately, it’s aaaaaalmost over.
Anonymous says
Everyone I know has a work start time of 8, so it’s been a super fun summer of scrambling to manage drop offs.
Anonymous says
Camp IS summer! Is she going to a real outdoorsy or themed day camp, or just a non-themed Y or day care camp that isn’t much different from regular child care? If the latter, sign her up for more interesting camps next year.
Boston Legal Eagle says
+1 I can’t think of anything more fun, especially for my older kid, than running around with his friends and getting to swim every day. And he loves it. What does she think she’s missing?
Anon says
It’s definitely fun for some kids, but not all. I was an introvert who wanted to spend my summers reading alone and occasionally playing outdoors with neighbors. I tried a couple of day camp programs and hated them (until I was way older and did specialized sports & academic camps). I’m fully aware that many kids (including my kid!) would hate that much alone time. But I don’t think camp is universally “better” than being home alone or hanging with neighbors. It’s just different and what is better depends on the individual kids.
Anon says
Yeah, my kids like getting to go swimming or learn gymnastics or do art projects or put on a show or play with their friends…but they also love just being alone in their rooms for hours making up imaginary stories about their animals and dolls or reading through all the books in their favorite series, and day camp doesn’t typically have space for that.
Anon says
If you look around, you might be able to find a camp like this. We have a local camp that I’ve nicknamed “chilling with teens.” The teenage counselors are happy to play with kids (sports, board games, crafts) but it’s super unstructured and many kids will pack toys and books. Many times my kids would find a quiet spot under a tree and just read or play by themselves for hours. We’d never sign up for the whole summer, but I’ll often sign my kids up for a week or two right after school gets out so they can decompress.
Anonymous says
Definitely look around for camps that fit your kid’s style. A little different from “chilling with teens,” but we had one I called “Lord of the Flies.” The teen and young adult counselors would just load the kids into a van and take them on crazy adventures. One day they went to the river and jumped off pilings (I was not happy about that and I can’t imagine their insurance company would have been if they’d found out). Another day they went to the beach. Once they went to the grocery store and bought a bunch of ingredients and had a bake-off. Etc.
anonamommy says
We lean heavily into fun when camp ends for the day. There’s far less routine to our evenings. We do lots of pickups that go straight to the pool, with a picnic dinner packed. Or a stop for ice cream on the way home. Or evening playdates with friends at playgrounds (we could never during the school year!). Twilight walks to catch fireflies. Once or twice we will pick up from camp early and go to the local amusement park for 4 hours before it closes. Reading bedtime stories on the porch, at least on nights when it’s not too buggy.
Alli says
This sounds super fun! I especially like the idea of going to the pool, which is the quintessential summer activity (and only available during the summer). I keep finding reasons “not tonight,” but I’ll get them over there tonight. :)
Anonymous says
How old is your kid? If <8 then too bad/so sad. But if she’s a rising 4th grader or older maybe hear her out. Think about some other options, like if you WFH letting her sleep in and do an afternoon activity. Or skip a week of camp.
My 10 year old/rising 5th grader helps plan her summers. She’d hate 8 weeks if 8-4 day camp now. She does 2 weeks (next summer it’ll be 4) of sleepaway camp, 4 weeks at the town pool swim and tennis program where I drop her at 9 and she bums around all day in between swim and tennis lessons/teams (she has 4-5 friends that also do this and parents coordinate food and mild supervision), and we have 2 weeks of vacation. Next summer she’s flying solo (!) to visit my in-laws for a week and doing 4 weeks of sleepaway camp.
Anonymous says
Also, the 10 year old stays up til 10:30-11 and sleeps til 10 so if I get up at 6:30 and work I get 3 hours in before I even see her.
Note: I have other kids but they are younger and happy do day camp 9-4. We did 4 weeks + 2 weeks of a teenage sitter.
SC says
I also had a mix of activities when I was in older elementary and middle school. I started going to sleepaway camp for 4 weeks when I was 8, though I admit that’s a long time for most kids that age. The rest of the summer would be a mix of day camps and having a babysitter at home so I could bum around with neighborhood friends.
More Sleep Would Be Nice says
I’ve posted about this before, so re-posting for empathy, and this time, any advice.
Our 2.5 year old is SPICY. There are tantrums, screaming, throwing, etc. One of his favorite things to do is take off my glasses and hair clip…and laugh. One of the tougher things is 2.5 year old is on the lower end of normal for speech so expressive communication is more difficult for him (he’s progressing in ST). We try a lot of the tactics that worked with our much more verbal, rule-following older child, when he exhibited some of this at age 3, and they just don’t work on DS #2.
One of his teachers comments from time to time that he sometimes is a handful, and he’s super close with his other teacher – this is never to the point we get calls from school or anything. On the other hand, he’s also a favorite of the staff and teachers, too because he’s…well, charming and sweet, bats his eyelashes, etc. (for a 2.5 year old). He’s literally the type of kid you’re frustrated at one minute, and then he’s doing something to make you laugh the next.
I feel like most of this is developmentally normal (please tell me otherwise), but would love to hear some tactics that help kept you sane. DH has his own childhood trauma about how this behavior was dealt with when he was growing up, and we just want to have a good toolkit and don’t want to be drained when we’re home together as a family. We’ve also e-mailed his school for ideas that we can implement at home.
Outings generally and outside time really help – the former is tough outside of pool time right now because it’s incredibly hot where we live – so I’ll take any ideas on this as well.
Anon says
I think it’s very normal at this age. I don’t have any tips. I really struggled with age 2.5-4 and felt drained and exhausted much of the time. But it was like a fog lifted on my child’s 4th birthday and almost overnight things were much better. I think you just have to let time pass.
OP says
I should add – we just had his 2.5 year old visit – no concerns from the ped. This is more – how do we keep our sanity and help him?
Anon says
My daughter was like this. At 5 she’s still got more energy than most but she will listen and behave most of the time. We literally could not take her anywhere like restaurants because she was into everything. So yes it is a phase I think.
Our strategy was to make sure she eats and drinks enough (kid has her moms hangry issue) and just try to wear her out. She also seemed to thrive with structure and being given jobs like helping sweep or whatever.
Boston Legal Eagle says
Sounds like my first kid – your kid will probably grow up to be super social with lots of friends and be into sports and other activities. Always moving. I would suggest keeping him as active as possible – running around outside, trampoline places, Nugget, etc. This is a kid for whom talking through a tantrum won’t do much. If he gets out of control (often for my kid), take him to his room or a safe space and just sit with him for a bit.
Anonymous says
I don’t really see the problem/ abnormality here? He’s a 2.5yo kid. You need to reset expectations.
Anonymous says
Same. Sounds completely normal to me
Anon says
My kid was like this for awhile, and, at age 4, she still is a bit like this. We found it was worse when she wasn’t being active enough. We signed up for gymnastics and swim lessons. We go weekly to the zoo or a playground. If the weather isn’t good enough for those things, we go to an indoor jump park or activity center. But we have to do something most weekends, or we are melting down by Sunday mid-morning. We started time outs for big tantrums where she goes to her room with the door shut. One of us goes with her so she isn’t alone (the last time this happened she actually went alone to her room and came out when she was ready with no prompting from us). We just let her yell and get it all out. There isn’t anything fun in her room, so there isn’t any issue with her going in there to play. We had a hard line with hitting, kicking, etc. I’d put pulling off glasses in there, too. Those actions would lead to time outs. No other reaction, just straight to time outs. Even though he’s only 2.5, I’d still start talking to him about why it’s not funny to take off glasses. My kid also responded well to being allowed to make choices so she had a sense of control over some things.
OP says
TY! Super helpful. The timeout idea makes total sense.
What did you do when the hard-line behavior happens during busy mornings, or when you were putting kid in carseat after pick-up?
Anonymous says
“We need to get into the car seat now for safety. I can do it for you, or you can climb on in. I will count to 3, and then I will do it for you. It’s up to you.”
anon says
Yep! My son is 3 and rainy days are THE WORST. We live in the south so summers are park/activity, rest, pool.
Winters are mild enough that we can pretty much play outside anytime during the day.
Rainy days are when things go off the rails if I don’t have a fun activity planned.
No hitting/scratching/throwing things is allowed but usually his tantrums involve just throwing himself on the floor and screaming which I just ride out.
TheElms says
Being a parent to a 2.5 year old is hard. I would lean into the things that you know already work – get outside early in the day before its unbearably hot. In the afternoon set up the sprinkler and a baby pool and splash about on days you can’t get to the pool. In the house, give him opportunities to get out energy in the way he might outside – set up an obstacle course in the house; get a crashpad and just let him jump on it/into it. If you have a space for indoor bounce house try that.
Then do what you can to set him up for success. That means changing your behavior and is hard. So from your example if he takes out your hairclip out, put your hair in a pony tail or leave it down.
Finally, I don’t think its realistic to not to be drained when you’re at home as a family. Its hard work parenting two little kids. I still enjoy it but I’m utterly exhausted at the end of each day with my two (4 and 1 1/2).
Anon says
Normal is a spectrum. Also, normal can still be hard! Our son is 3 and on the extreme end of the range for normal. We are getting a psych eval in the hopes of getting some sort of professional input on how to help him. I also get therapy myself to help myself cope with his outbursts. FWIW my son has one hour + long meltdowns daily (or more) where he screams at a very high decibel.
Also, I’ve found peds kind of dismissive of this kind of stuff. If you want an eval, just firmly ask for a referral. Costs them nothing.
More Sleep Would Be Nice says
Fingers crossed you get some answers and/or time helps!
Ugh our 2.5 year old screams and it’s hard on all of us (not for an hour though – I’ll make sure to pay attention if that happens). The tough thing is that for now – his meltdowns come and go quickly.
Also, 3 is TOUGH! When DS #1 was 3 – there were longer meltdowns, plus he was much more verbal and it was a different flavor of tough. I remember him getting upset that he had to eat lunch at home before going to my Mom’s house, he thought it was PREPOSTEROUS! ONE MUST EAT LUNCH AT THEIR DESTINATION. I laugh when I think about it now but it was not funny in the moment.
Anonymous says
Could you recommend a laundry service or tell me how to find this? Looking at the app Hampr. I just want wash and fold: not dry cleaning. Family of 5 and we live in Houston, if it matters. Thanks!
Mary Moo Cow says
A search for laundromats in your zip code? I’ve seen laundromats advertise a wash and fold service in the window, and I would not have known if I had not driven by.
My neighbor has hers tacked on to her house cleaning service, it that’s an option for you, too.
Alli says
https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Wash+And+Fold+Laundry&find_loc=Houston%2C+TX
anonamama says
Poplin, which used to be SudShare, is an app that connects you with people who pick up your laundry, do this service in their home and deliver it back to you. If that’s not a deal breaker for you, I found it hugely helpful and affordable (about 99c/lb).
Help! says
Token present ideas for a 5 year old boy that has everything?
NYCer says
Klever Kits Science Lab Kit – $20 on Amazon. My daughter loves doing the experiments. Other options: stomp rockets, one of those velcro ball and catch sets or a small lego set.
Anon says
I would vote for any of stomp rockets or the velco catch sets or Lego over the science kits. I hate when we’re given presents that require significant parental involvement, and I think most 5 year olds are going to need a lot of help with science kits.
NYCer says
My daughter received the science kit as a gift, and we loved it! I enjoy doing the experiments with her. To each their own.
Anon says
I sometimes enjoy doing stuff like that too, but I don’t like when it’s forced upon me. I think it’s rude to give a child over the age of 4 or so a gift that requires a significant outlay of time for the parent, because kids that age can be a little more independent with the right toys.
anon says
Small Lego kit? My kids love getting to follow the instructions to put it together, and then when they’re done it’s just another 100-200 pieces to add to their Lego supply.
Consumable art supplies (stickers!)?
Alli says
+1 on Legos – come at every price point and age range
Anonymous says
A new book – Fly Guy’s big book of why was a hit at that age. I think it is also a good age for a lot of activity books that are not reusable like dot to dot, mazes, sticker by number or maybe Highlights hidden pictures.
Anonymous says
Sticker art book.
OOO says
Perplexus maze ball
Rush Hour Jr Traffic logic game
Custom superhero cape from Etsy
Boogie board tablet
Target gift card
OOO says
Also, Tangle Nightball
anon says
Moms with older kids — I’m curious about how involved you are with hair care. I feel like my 8 yo DD still needs more help from me, but she balks at the idea. She does a decent job shampooing her hair on her own. She says she uses conditioner, but there are times when I can tell she’s either not leaving it on long enough or using enough, period. I also think she must have some summer buildup from chlorine, sun, and sunscreen getting smeared in because it’s very unmanageable right now. Hair type is fine but a lot of it; straight; mid-back length. She had a trim recently.
So, two questions:
1) Any tips on de-funkifying summer hair; and
2) How much do I push on being more involved with hair care, beyond helping her style it in the morning? I will confess that I don’t have a great love of long hair, but she is adamant that this is what she wants and I want to teach her how to properly care for it.
anon says
I have a 9 yo with thick, waist length hair. She’s also doing swim team so she’s been swimming 1-3 times a day for the past 6 weeks. Her hair is horrible. We try to keep it braided, but even with that it’s often insanely knotted. We’ve purchased some spray in detangle and have been relying on that a great deal to get a brush through it at all. It often takes me 45 minutes – 1 hour to brush it out to a manageable extent. There’s no way she could handle it herself.
Basically my plan is to get through swim season and see what shape we’re in. We’ll worry about creating a hair routine and greater independence in the fall.
Anon says
If she’s balking at help from you, there’s your answer. 8 is definitely old enough for independent hair management – which at that age should be shampoo and conditioning, nothing more. You can provide decent products to help manage summer hair and have conversations about things like not using too much or too little of a product, but otherwise, let her handle it. Independence is important, even if her hair doesn’t look 100% perfect.
Anon says
If she needs more conditioner, maybe get one of those leave-in conditioner or detangler sprays?
AwayEmily says
Maybe this is too severe but when I was a kid my mom gave me the choice between taking the time to care for my (very thick and prone to tangles) hair properly (and she was honest about the extra time/effort that would take), or cutting it short. I opted for the short hair, then when I was around 10 finally decided I wanted to grow it longer and was ready to put in the effort. I gave the same option to my daughter (now 7) and she chose to go short also (she has the world’s most adorable little bob).
Anonymous says
1) If she’s in the pool a lot, use a chlorine removal shampoo like Ultra Swim after swimming. Otherwise try a clarifying shampoo once a week.
2) At age 8 she should be able to take care of her own hair unless it has a lot of curl or texture, with some styling assistance. A shampoo brush (round plastic scalp massaging thingy) might help her get it clean. Braids and buns are very helpful for preventing tangles in the pool.
PinkKeyboard says
I remember being left to handle my own care and failing abysmally so I’m still fairly involved in my just turned 8 year old’s hair. She has requested a shorter bob so I’m going to trial her doing it herself when we get it cut shorter. My 6 year old will likely require my involvement till she’s about 10, she has incredibly thick and curly flowing blonde hair I could sell for zillions but the upkeep is A LOT for a child.
Maybe let her do it regularly and make a guest appearance once a week for a clarifying shampoo and deep conditioning treament to ensure it’s done thoroughly on occasion? Definitely get spray in conditioner, ideally they decide they like your $25 IGK kind and steal it from your bathroom regularly.
Spirograph says
I let my 8 year old handle her own hair for the most part, but I do braids and styling for her a couple times a week and if I notice it’s kinda gross, I just tell her that I’m going to help her wash her hair that night. I sometimes do the scrubbing, myself, and sometimes just coach “make sure you scrub the shampoo into your scalp, use your fingertips, get all around your head” but in any case it results in a more thorough job a couple times a month and that’s good enough. Her hair is long, straight and not too thick, so it doesn’t need particularly special care, just upskilling in basic hygiene!
+1 to chlorine shampoo if your child swims a lot, especially if they have blonde hair that might get greenish. This is the most motivating thing for my daughter to do a better job washing; she’s terrified of her hair turning green.
Mary Moo Cow says
I also have an 8 year old who I can trust to shampoo but not much else. A few things that we’ve tried or will try: letting her pick out the shampoo and conditioner; getting shower fizzies so she enjoys the shower experience and lingering in the shower to condition her hair; Honest Co. leave in detangling conditioning spray (both after a rinse at the pool shower and after a shower at home); encouraging braids and headbands.
I have fond memories of my mom brushing, blow drying, and styling my hair when I was a kid, any my 8 year old can be a pretty cool and independent cucumber so I enjoy doing her hair, even though others may see 8 as too old for it. Shrug. I would push on it, repeating that you will let go after a few weeks of demonstrated haircare. If she’s open to learning but not from you, YouTube? Book an appointment with her hairdresser simply to go over technique?
Anonymous says
I have 3 girls and my rule is they care for it, let me care for it, or it gets cut to the shoulders. My 5 year old is still working on it but let’s me help. 7 and 10 year old are fully independent. 7 year old has flirted the idea of short hair bc she gets frustrated with hers but hasn’t pulled the s trigger yet.
FWIW all 3 have mid-back length hair that’s super thick. We clog a lot of drains around here ;).
Anonymous says
We do a deep conditioner (there are a lot, one kiddo really likes Aussie’s “3 minute miracle”) every few days in the bath. Braids at night and while swimming.
Anonymous says
My seven year old has fine wavy/curly hair and a real aversion to spending any time in the shower (it’s boring), so we use a leave-in/detangler in addition to her shampoo and condition routine. I let her handle washing and generally, with the frequency of showers in the summer, it doesn’t get too funky.
As for brushing/care, I brush and braid her hair before bed when it’s wet and she handles styling in the morning. It’s a nice bonding part of our nighttime routine and allows me to keep an eye on the care and make sure she’s not getting any mats.
If your daughter doesn’t want additional help from you, I would suggest adding a leave-in/detangler for brushing when wet and maybe a clarifying shampoo? Protective styles like braids will also help with tangles in dry hair. At that age and with that much activity, you could also just increase the frequency of bathing. I have found that keeps things simple and keeps kids clean.
Anonymous says
As someone whose hair needs a ton of conditioner (extremely thick), it took years and years to figure out how to apply it evenly. I would suggest using a leave-in conditioner such as Curls Blueberry Bliss that can be applied outside of the shower and helping her apply it for a while longer.
Life-long swimmer says
There’s no such thing as “chlorine buildup”. Chlorine is a the active ingredient in Clorox. It’s a bleach. It works by breaking down protein bonds, killing bacteria and viruses. Hair can be damaged by chlorine, but there’s no repairing it. If your kid’s hair has turned green, it’s due to anti-algae copper treatments or copper water pipes/hoses used to fill a pool. The shampoos that remove green from hair or are “anti-chlorine” actually strip metals out of hair (because that’s what causes the green color).
Use gentle shampoo, heavy conditioner and a regular leave in treatment (like Infusium) to treat swimming damaged hair. Weekly rinses of about a tablespoon of lemon juice or vinegar in a half gallon of water will remove the copper that causes green hair.
Anonymous says
Can anyone recommend a Sun hat that your baby would tolerate wearing?
AwayEmily says
My kids all wear the Sunday Afternoon Play Hats. They’re more expensive but very worth it for coverage and comfort. All of my kids had to be “hat trained,” though. A combination of us and daycare saying a hard no on going outside in the sun if they didn’t have a hat. Eventually they realized that if they wanted to out, they had to hat.
Vicky Austin says
Love your phrasing. If you want to out, you have to hat!
CCLA says
Yes, those hats are incredible, I got the rec here (maybe from you!). Love the adjustable head size and the strap that pops off for safety. Hat training is totally a thing and was worth the effort IMO. My kids are older now but we still have half a dozen of the bigger sizes floating around and used them yesterday at the beach.
Anon says
Just a vent… I’m on day 8 of Covid and although I have been basically asymptomatic since Thursday, my home tests are still flaming positive, darker than they’ve ever been. I obviously don’t want to make anyone sick but I’m so miserable in isolation and miss my family so much. It’s my daughter’s last week of preschool and I’m missing all the fun end-of-year events. It took my husband 13 days to test negative when he had an extremely mild case last year so I’m not optimistic about going anywhere before the weekend at the earliest and I’m just SO DONE.
Anonymous says
If you’re asymptomatic and vaccinated, you can mask after day 5 and resume normal activities.
Anon says
Line color is a proxy for infectiousness. With a huge flaming positive test, OP should definitely continue to isolate.
OP, hang in there – it’s so rough but it will be over soon. Thank you for your consideration. All we high-risk people really appreciate people like you and see the sacrifices you’re making.
Anonymous says
No she shouldn’t. People don’t need to do this. Line color is not.
Anon says
I know the CDC says I can, but I know way too many people who infected their family members between days 5 and 10. It appears I avoided infecting them at the beginning and would hate to end isolation too soon and make them sick now. On day 11, I may leave isolation and wear a mask around my family until I test negative. That’s what we did with my husband and it was fine. But his lines were extremely faint by now. The darkness of the line is giving me pause about returning to them, even with a mask. I’m also a little freaked out that my body can’t seem to clear this!!! I don’t know anyone who had such a dark line over a week in.
Anonymous says
Anecdotally I’m hearing from people who have caught it in the past few months that it is taking a long time to clear, and they are having rebound symptoms even without Paxlovid.
Anonymous says
The CDC has admitted that its guidelines were motivated by politics and public opinion, not science. I think you are doing the right thing by isolating until you test negative.
Anon says
Yeah, it’s frustrating that CDC put out the 5-day guideline when its own internal data showed that people remain infectious for a median of 8 days. I think it gave false hope.
anon says
YMMV, but I didn’t isolate from my family from the beginning except for eating and sleeping. We all wore KN-95 masks and had our air purifier running on high, but it was a worthwhile trade-off for us so that my spouse got some help parenting and I could still help the household with my usual cooking dinner and prepping school lunches. I credit this all to the double-masking, though, so if your family isn’t willing to mask I wouldn’t risk it.
Anonymous says
Why? You do not have to do this. Wait five days move on with life wear a mask in crowds. This is insanity and you’re choosing it.
Anonymous says
Go to the events. No one else is doing this
Anon says
I am not covid cautious (we have resumed normal life completely — case in point, we just returned from a 2+ week multi-city trip with multiple flights with my family – no masking, indoor eating, etc.), and I definitely waited out a negative test before I went around my family without a mask when I had a positive test. It took 11 days. No one else in my family got infected. I resumed some activities masked in the last five days, but only if I could keep my distance from other attendees. To me, it was worth the short term pain to avoid everyone else having to isolate.
Regarding the 5 day window, I read that it was based on human behavior to mitigate risk. The thinking was that scientists knew the vast majority of the public wouldn’t wait out a positive and would just throw up their hands and resume normal life immediately if they knew the isolation/quarantine protocol was to wait until a negative test. 5 days was the max timeframe that they felt the majority of people would actually comply with, and it would at least lessen the risk of transmission.
Anon says
OP here, and this is basically how I feel. It’s less that I think Covid is such a big deal (it was extremely mild for both my husband and me), but more than I don’t want make others in my family sick and extend our collective period of isolating and missing events that are important to someone in our family. It’s worth a few days of extra isolation for me (even though it’s really annoying) to make sure my kid doesn’t have to miss any of her final week of school and that we don’t have anyone miss our family vacation in a couple weeks. Maybe I’d feel differently if no one in our family had anything important for the next two weeks…but it seems like we always have something important to someone on the agenda.
Anon says
Not true, at all. Most people I know have exercised basic consideration.
Anonymous says
I had a very mild case of covid a couple weeks ago and didn’t test again after the first positive one. I wouldn’t have even tested at all, except I’d just returned from a work trip and was notified that one of my colleagues had gotten ill. I stayed home/outdoors for a week and wore a mask when I went to indoor public places for another week, but did not isolate from my fully vaccinated and healthy family. None of them caught it, as far as we know.
I agree that your approach seems like overkill at this point. If you wear a well-fitting KN95 mask and go back to normal life, you’ll be doing more than most people.
Anon says
“More than most people” isn’t the same as the right thing. It’s okay to want to do better than the floor.
Anon says
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Anonymous says
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Anonymous says
Homepay for payroll. Soo worth the money.
Anon says
+1
Anon says
+2 Homepay is great
CCLA says
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