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Anon says
I have 4.5 year old twins, and they still cry every. single. time. I leave them with a babysitter at night or if their dad/my husband is in charge of bedtime, even if I’m at home and especially if I leave. Is this normal? I went to go meet a friend for a drink last night, and they were both absolutely hysterical as I was leaving. Separation anxiety felt normal when they were 2, but at 4.5, it feels like they should absolutely have outgrown this. I really still feel like I’m leaving toddlers at this point, not preschoolers who will start Kindergarten in the fall. It’s draining, exhausting, and infuriating for everyone involved. I am often the primary parent in the evenings, but I try to split up bedtime with my husband a few nights per week. We also usually get a babysitter on one weekend night. Unless I’m the one taking care of them, they sob hysterically for the whole bedtime routine. Ugh – when does separation anxiety taper off?
Anonymous says
It will get better. I actually feel like it peaked around 4-5 because they were old enough to understand that I was leaving and ask me to stay.
NYCer says
+1 to this type of separation anxiety peaking at this age. My 4.5 year old daughter also gets quite upset if we are going out or won’t be home for bedtime, even if she is staying with my mom (who she loves!). Though she does calm down once I leave, so I have no advice for the crying hysterically for the whole bedtime routine.
Anon says
It’s probably not gentle parenting approved but I would be offering bribes for no crying.
Ifiknew says
my kids both do this 4.5 and even my 6.5 year old depending on the day. I start prepping them days before when I have plans and I try to leave an hour or 90 mins before they sleep. if I try to leave at 630 (they sleep at 7), they’re both crying. they dont cry for school or when they’re sleeping over at grandmas but when I’m leaving them at home, it seems to be harder. The bribes also work well but also, I would encourage doing it more so it’s more routine. hugs, I know it’s really hard.
Anon says
On the nights when you are leaving, do you just leave or do you linger because they are crying? If you are lingering, I’d try leaving after a hug/kiss/reminder you will return. Lingering or trying to calm them down before I left only seemed to make things worse. On splitting up bedtime, I would consider trying a different routine with dad. My kids would get so mad that dad wasn’t doing the bedtime routine “right” like mom, but once he started getting them into dad’s routine with clearly different steps and something special that only happens on dad’s night, they weren’t upset at all that I wasn’t there.
Anonymous says
This. Like with daycare the quick calm confident consistent goodbye is key.
octagon says
I agree with this, and with it peaking before Kindergarten. Do they have the same babysitter each time? My strategies were to always have kiddo eating dinner when the babysitter arrived – that way he was otherwise occupied and wouldn’t see me actually walk out the door. (Even if it meant I left earlier than needed.) And I would have a fun new activity or game (something small – blocks or new crayons or stickers) and give it to the babysitter in front of him, to play when dinner was over. Usually that was enough to appease kiddo, and also give the babysitter some direction for what should happen right after dinner to ease the transition.
Anon says
Thanks all. It helps to hear that they aren’t the only ones who have a hard time separating at 4.5.
As for the question of how I leave them, it honestly doesn’t matter. I can rip off the bandaid, I can linger, I can remind them I’m coming back, and I can be cool, calm, and confident (and frankly, at this point, the crying doesn’t surprise anyone, so we are all very unmoved by the hysterics, and just keep on keeping on), I can prepare them days or hours in advance, and they will still sob at the point of separation and/or upon learning they will have a babysitter in the future. My husband does have his own routine (a storybook that only he reads from and he says a poem after the lights are out, while I sing them a song), so even that hasn’t moved the dial. They go through the routine and go to bed for him or a babysitter, they are just crying during most of the process.
They have no problems at preschool drop off, and will go happily to the nursery during church and the “kids zone” at our pool. On the rare occasions that we get a sitter during the day, it’s a much easier transition than at night, but they still cry for a bit, and they definitely cry when I leave during the day (like to go to an exercise class or to the store on the weekends), even if my husband is at home. I’m just….ready to walk out the door with a hug and kiss, especially when it’s my husband still at home!!
Anonymous says
I just wanted to say I have twins too and they’re like this no matter what: sneak out, linger, reassure, same babysitter, it always ends in tears. I just keep going out. I hope it gets better for you soon.
Anon says
Thank you for this note :) I genuinely appreciate it — It really does help to know that this is “normal” behavior for this age, and yes, we have tried all the Things….it’s just that the only way out is through. I do think that twins rile each other up too — so I have one twin who I actually think would be fine with me leaving, but when her twin is freaking out, she does too. As she tends to be a lot more advanced than her brother, sometimes I can’t tell if she’s age appropriate, and he’s on the young side, or if she’s advanced, and he’s age appropriate. It helps me to have more patience with both of them to know that the behavior is age appropriate.
Anon says
For me it also peaked around 4.5/5, but had tapered off by 5.5. I remember in particular that the last year of preschool (DD turned 5 in May), I had to be within 5 feet of her, and by March of kinder, I could drop her off at a party (!!). I suspect that having two is making it worse unfortunately. I have no suggestions, but just offers of support that this is not atypical. And I would just leave. It’ll be easier for everyone if you don’t linger/you’re not around. Even if you go sit in the car.
More Sleep Would Be Nice says
+1 to all of the advice. FWIW, this peaked for DS #1 (6) between 4.5-5.5.
anon says
You gotta get outta there quickly. it’s dad or babysitter’s job to reassure them and not make you feel worse about this. They should tell them you will be back and we’ll do xyz. I wouldn’t feel bad about this.
Anon says
I would consider having your husband takeover bedtime duties full time, if your family’s schedule allows. Not to be punitive, but to see if this makes baby-sitters / grandparents / whomever putting kids to bed less upsetting to your kids. For some kids it’s just a mommy attachment thing and by taking you out of the equation they’ll eventually handle all bed times better.
Anon says
Ugh, we considered that option — but I don’t want to give up my nights with them for the next few months because I do love having time with them at night too, as long as I’m not trying to leave! This thread is hugely helpful that (1) it’s normal at this age, (2) there is no silver bullet, and (3) at some point it will taper off. It just gives me more patience as we stay the course.
Anon says
Another vote that separation anxiety peaked right around 4.5 for us. We don’t use date night sitters, but we had a horrible few months of rough school drop-offs when my kid was almost 4.5. This post is actually validating to me, because the teachers blamed her separation anxiety on my husband being out of town for a few weeks, but I strongly suspected it was just the age/phase and these comments seem to confirm it’s super normal at this age.
Anon says
So i will say that apparently growing up i used to throw up almost every Saturday night when my parents went out. The pediatrician told them to keep going out. I was fine at school, fine when our nanny came. I have no clue now as to why
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Anon says
Someone posted a really interesting article about gentle parenting accidentally making parents too permissive – wanted to repost here too: https://www.thecut.com/article/gentle-parenting-and-the-accidentally-permissive-parent.html
Anon says
I love this, agree with every word. It’s yet another causality of our sound-bite, quick fix culture — people latch onto ideas that sound good, but only grasp/implement it at the surface level, based on popular consensus and 2-min social media clips.
We need to go back to the old classics of respectful parenting, Drs. Dan Siegel, Tina Payne-Bryson, Adele Faber, Elaine Mazlish (and I will add in Janet Lansbury, but I know she’s controversial around here!) All of them seem to balance maintaining authority with having compassion for your kids. It’s really hard for parents to hold that line these days
Anon says
My problem with Lansbury is not her substantive ideas, which seem perfectly reasonable, but the implication in her books that her methods work for everyone and if they don’t work for you there’s something wrong with how you’re applying them. I only have one kid but I just don’t believe there are one size fits all parenting methods. Every kid and parent is different and what works great for some kid/parent combo is not going to work for others. Lansbury is definitely not the only parenting expert guilty of this – II find most of them are too aggressive about suggesting their methods will work for everyone.
Anon says
Ok, I can see that criticism. To me, the value of experts like this is that they give me confidence in my parenting, and make me believe I can be a confident authority figure when dealing with my kids. It’s less about the exact scripts and tactics (like Dr Becky) but more the overall ethos. They also have a more positive spin on kids/parenting than the general social media, complain-y echo chamber. So, I look to them as mentors rather than instruction books, if that makes sense.
Anon says
I’ve been thinking a lot about this article and some of the weird discourse about it on the main board. I am so tired from the past few years. Yes, that sometimes means I give in when I could instead yell or punish my kid, including in public situations. That doesn’t mean I never set boundaries with my own kid and I am screwing her up forever. Nor does it make me lazy. And anyone who didn’t raise a child during covid years doesn’t really get to judge those of us who struggled without support and are still living with what sometimes feels like ptsd. We are all doing the best we can and none of us are perfect. I’d rather have my kid resent me for giving in to her too much than for not giving her enough love.
Anoner says
Amen especially with regards to ptsd from covid
Anon says
I think you’re taking this way too personally. I didn’t interpret this article, or any of the comments on the main page about it yesterday, as criticizing parents who give in to a tired, whiney kid occasionally rather than fight a public battle. The pushback is against the “gentle parenting” movement (or more accurately, about how this movement has been distilled into very un-nuanced soundbites by influencers) which has resulting in parents being told it’s not ok to ever use timeouts and non-natural consequences. I have friends who’ve told me I’m inflicting lifelong trauma on my kid because I gave her brief timeouts for hitting me when she was 3. I think that’s nuts – most 3 year olds can understand that hitting is not ok, and a brief timeout or the loss of a privilege like screentime as a deterrent for inappropriate behavior is not emotionally ab*sive. But it doesn’t mean I’m creeping on other moms in the grocery store and judging how they react to their kids.
Anonymous says
So we’ve finally gotten my (almost 4 year old, autistic) kid to use the bathroom consistently while we’re home. He’s also been fine going at grandma’s house and friends’ houses, as long as one of us goes with him. Do you all have any tips for how to get him to use the bathroom in public places? He’s pretty scared of them right now and would rather go home than use the bathroom at, say, the children’s museum. We’ve got some headphones we’re going to try out, but any other suggestions?
Anonymous says
If it’s automatic flushers that cause issues, I know lots of people who carry around post it notes for this reason.
EP-er says
I don’t have experience with this, but is sounds hard and I’m sure took a lot of work to get where you are. My only advice is to keep some Post-It notes in your purse to cover up the automatic flush sensor. Sometimes they go off while the kids are squirming there and they freak out. Good luck!
Anonymous says
Is it the auto flush? I cover the sensor with my hand while my kid goes. I have heard a sticky note also works to stop it from flushing and scaring the kid.
Anon says
Would it be helpful to bring something to make the potty experience more similar across the board, like toilet seat covers or one of those fold-out toilet seats?
Anonymous says
Maybe a visual or auditory focus point? Like a song that plays in the headphones that is familiar to him or a dollar store window cling in a favourite character or scene that you can put on the wall at home and keep another one in your purse to put on the stall door for him to focus on? Plus the post its to block auto flushers.
Anonymous says
CONGRATULATIONS on going potty at home! That’s huge. And I just want to validate that public bathrooms can be very scary. Two of my three kids refused to go in public because they’re just loud and chaotic and gross. One ignorant comment from a mom of neurotypical kids: I would often let my kid leave the stall and then I’d flush the toilet. The post it over the auto flush tip worked for us in a few cases too.
anonM says
Maybe ease into it with an outing where you know there’s a large, clean family bathroom? There’s such a range of public bathrooms, with the worst (in my book) being large venues or outdoor gas station ones with one single dirty bathroom and a line. The uncertainty of what it could be like can be overwhelming and even as an adult I try to avoid them too! But if DS can start where you’re both calm and it’s clean and not rushed, it may make it easier to eventually do the children’s museum during a busy Saturday. Good luck!
Anon says
+1 to the post it to cover the auto flusher and/or just letting him leave the stall and then flushing. We also had issues with the hand dryer. Not ideal, but if the only option was an air dryer, I let her wipe her wet hands on me rather than use it. We even once left the bathroom without washing our hands when there were multiple hand dryers going off at the same time. I basically bathed her hands in hand sanitizer that day! Also, I’ll second trying to find places that have a single stall bathroom rather than one with multiple stalls. We also began going to the bathroom as part of the routine upon arrival and at departure rather than waiting until they really had to go. It didn’t seem quite so overwhelming when there wasn’t an urgent need to go.
anon says
Just going upon arrival is a great idea! Why has that never occurred to me? Much wiser than waiting until you’re on the other end of the store and hoping they can hold it.
Anon says
For my kid, apprehension around public toilets was less about the automatic flush and more about the fact that the seat was bigger and it kind of feels like you’re falling in. We carried around a potty seat for a few months (including on vacations), until she got comfortable without it. And yes, post-its to cover the automatic flush if it exists.
NLD in NYC says
Curious how you all plan for all the school vacations. DS started 3K this year and I’m looking ahead to spring 2024 with all. of. the. breaks. His old daycare is full so I can’t do a drop off their. Do you all just plan vacations for that time, lean on grandparents, or just take all the PTO? We’ve already sign up for summer camp though. : )
Anonymous says
Some kid entertainment/sports places will offer one-week camps over breaks. Mostly I just burn PTO.
Anon says
Around here, a lot of places have “school’s out” day camps- the after care providers, the gymnastics place, the rec center, the children’s theatre, sports arena, skating rink…
The other things I do for the random day off is sometimes I will swap half days with my friend or Husband – I’ll take the kids in the morning and then we swap, so it’s just a half day of leave.
AwayEmily says
Yup. Our kids do a lot of school break camps at the JCC. And I also do swaps with a friend (bonus that kids are often easier when they have a friend with them).
More Sleep Would Be Nice says
DS #1 is in Kinder.
YMCA camp is our go-to solution, and then on the margins I’ll take PTO and/or schedule time for the kids to go to my parents’ house. The way Christmas fell this year, I just took off starting 12/22 and will be back at work 1/2 (DS #1 will be at the Y from Jan 3-5).
Anne-on says
This is when we got an au pair, school breaks/days off were eating up all of our vacation time and we didn’t have local family to cover. The school break camps also ran from like 9-12, or 9-1 so that wasn’t a real help. And yes, we plan our spring break/summer break/summer camp coverage almost as soon as I get that year’s school calendar.
Anon says
I have a lot of PTO, so I normally take a week of PTO at each of fall break, winter break and spring break and then a couple weeks in the summer. My husband is a professor (fortunately the breaks align, except for fall break, which I do solo with my kid) so we can’t travel as a family at non-break times anyway.
There are also “school’s out” day camps around here, but I’ve found it’s not necessary to use them. I work from home, and by kindergarten my kid was independent enough that I could get a decent work day in even with her home (although my view may be colored by the fact that I worked from home with a 2 year old in 2020 – in comparison to that, a 5 or 6 year old is a breeze). Having friends over makes it even easier, assuming you invite the kids who play well without parental involvement. It would be a very different story with a 3 year old though. We did full-time daycare until my kid started K at 5.5, and for a 3-4 year old I would imagine you would need some kind of childcare help. Grandparents are also a good option if they’re local or available to align their visits with school breaks.
Anonymous says
We do a mix. Some vacations, some grandparent time, some PTO, some day-off camps. At the beginning of the school year I roughly plan how I will cover all the days that we don’t have vacations planned for, and then start requesting time off/booking camps/booking grandparents as we move through the year. It works pretty well and I think it’s a nice mix for the kids.
Anon says
We are at a daycare that still has a lot of breaks. Initially, we were taking PTO for the breaks, but with how much DS got sick when he was a baby, that was just unsustainable. DS doesn’t get sick as much anymore, but if I’m actually busy a work, I try to book a babysitter during the random one-off days. For winter break, we just take PTO. Summer break, we plan our vacation. Spring break we normally just struggle through– daycare offers “camp” from 9-3, which is normally enough childcare that we can muddle through for a week.
Anonymous says
My main advice on camps is that you need to know your kid and what they can handle. My 5yo is generally easy-going and does not have big separation issues but he (understandably) gets super upset being dropped off somewhere random and new with a bunch of strangers. Doing one-week camps here and there is not an option for us. My goal for the year ahead is to do some after-school activities at places that also run camps so that we can find places we like, and then recruit friends to join him in the camps. But for right now my solution is PTO and leaning out.
Anon says
Definitely ask other moms about their plans! Going to camp with a friend is easier, as you note, and you may find someone with a flexible job who’s keeping their kid home and is wiling to add yours to the group. I hosted several of my kid’s friends from 9 to 5 on the day before Thanksgiving, and am doing it again for an upcoming teacher work day. Honestly I do it for selfish reasons (it’s easier on me if my only child has friends to entertain her) but it helps the other families too. And the kids love it.
NLD in NYC says
Bless you! : )
NLD in NYC says
Thanks for all the suggestions. I found one gymnastics camp in my area, but pick up is 3pm. Hoping I can rope in in-laws for pick ups or grandparent camp some days.
anon venting says
I just want to vent anonymously. DH tore his ACL playing sports so I’ve been doing all pickups, dropoffs, and bedtime routines for our toddler for the last month and conceivably for the next 3-4 months on top of everything else I already do: work, laundry, making the holidays nice, arranging activities for our kid, fighting with our health insurance, coordinating cleaners and repairs and household maintenance and on and on and on. DH is really struggling with depression from not being able to interact with people and do things like he used to and of course the pain and not sleeping well, and I want to be sympathetic when he’s upset, but instead I feel like I have nothing more to give him, and I get frustrated from feeling like even the things he could help with, he’s not taking any initiative on or doing consistently (tried assigning him health insurance and he hasn’t done any follow up after the first day, he did one storytime after I asked him, but hasn’t offered to do it again, he said he would take care of dishes but I had to run two loads this weekend back to back to clear out the sink). I feel like I’ve taken on all this stuff without thanks or appreciation and when I go home I never know if I’ll get the upbeat dad who gets our kid to eat vegetables for dinner or the sullen lump that sits on the couch and doesn’t look up from their phone all night and complains that he can never catch a break.
Betsy says
I went through a debilitating injury for my husband and it was one of the hardest things either of us has ever experienced. You’re used to being a team and then you go through something like that where your experiences are so different, and there’s the caretaker element on your side and the lack of independence on his. It was really, really hard. We both started therapy and it was the most helpful thing. My husband is mostly healed now and our relationship is stronger than ever, but going through the thick of it is so hard. I vividly remember being at the point you are now. A month in you are completely burned out by all the additional responsibilities and he is at the point where he’s burned out on being in pain but not healed enough to see forward progress yet. It’s a tough phase. The days will start to get easier soon. Lean on your support system with specific asks for help, let your standards slip as far as possible, and give yourself some treats. I’ll be sending you good vibes!
AwayEmily says
This is such a great, empathetic response. My husband has been out of commission with illness multiple times in the last few years and this pattern is so familiar.
Spirograph says
I’m sorry, this is tough. Especially at this time of year when the “making the holidays nice” can easily add so much to your to-do list.
I know you said you’re just venting but I have a practical comment, too: My husband has torn his ACL twice since we’ve been together, including once since we had kids and… I guess I don’t understand why your husband can’t drive or pitch in around the house? There are a couple weeks post-surgery where he legit could not move much and was on crutches in addition to a brace, but pre-surgery he basically went about his day as normal plus some OTC pain meds, minus sports. He could drive, he could stand and wash dishes, he could do everything except jump/shuffle laterally. If your husband is not doing anything, this seems to have more to do with the depression you mentioned than the physical limitations of a torn ACL, so *that’s* the part he needs to address with some good mental health care. That’s a different but not an easier problem to solve, so all the hugs from me.
Anonymous says
If he tore his left ACL he might be able to drive once he can bend his knee, but a right ACL usually puts you out of driving shape for quite some time. (Not able to stomp on brakes, etc.)
Anonymous says
I don’t see how that stops him from doing bedtime.
CCLA says
I’m so sorry. Feel free to ignore if you just want to vent and move on, but it surely he could take on some of the non-physical actions you’re carrying?
Your burnout is no less of a valid reason for support than his depression from injury. If this were a few day thing maybe it would make sense for you to be a martyr while he recovers, but for upwards of a month it’s time for him to realize that you’re in or about to be in the middle of a health crisis too from the stress, and he doesn’t get to nope out of responsibilities while you pick up the mess. I hope you get some support. I’m tired just reading what you’re carrying! If you have $$ to throw at it, I’d really consider doing that, on top of getting him to pitch in.
Anon says
Agree with this.
Venting OP says
Thank you for the kind comments, I felt awful about the whole thing because I know I’m not being supportive in the way my husband needs right now and he is doing his best too. Being able to vent helps so much.
For those who were curious, DH can drive, and he’s able to drive our kid around for an hour or so while they nap on the weekends, and I really appreciate that, but lengthy walking is out of the picture, so he can’t handle errands or destinations yet. And I have asked him for help as I mentioned in my original post, but I don’t want to be pushy when it doesn’t get done because he really does feel crummy so often.
Anon says
Since this is an extenuating circumstance for a limited period of time, can daycare help out and have someone come get your kid out to the car so DH can do drop off and bring kid out to the car so DH can do pick ups? I understand that generally not being feasible for all sorts of reasons, but maybe they can bend the rules in this case.
Cb says
I try to make a plan at the beginning of each school year. We use a mix of grandparent camp (my dad is coming to get my son in February for the first time), local places that do camps (sea life centre, aftercare, the private school that hosts an outdoor camp – ax throwing, archery!) and a bit of PTO. We try and offer a lot of favours for friends, in hopes they’ll reciprocate.
Anon says
My almost 10-year-old needs to have a tooth extracted (better option than filling a cavity when the permanent tooth is only a year or so away from coming in.) What is recovery going to look like? Is he fine within a couple hours, or should I plan for a couple days of swelling / bleeding / grumpiness?
Right now I have a flight scheduled for the day after the extraction and I’m weighing rescheduling the procedure.
Anon says
Unless there are complicating factors (there’s an abscess, the tooth is impacted, he has to have anesthesia, etc) he should be just fine. I had many baby tooth pulled because they wouldn’t fall out — once I had four done at once — and it was painful, but not a big deal. (Though, I’m open to the possibility that my memory isn’t as sharp about it 25 years later)
Anonymous says
I think it’s fine after a day or two, but I had 3 teeth removed at that age. My dad’s side of the family needs more anesthetic than normal and it was an extremely painful and traumatic procedure for me. The dentist thought I was being melodramatic. We now know that I metabolize anesthesia faster. I would be in the room to hold your kids hand.
HSAL says
Two of my kids have had teeth removed and were definitely fine by that night. Don’t reschedule.
Anon says
Same, just went through this.
Spirograph says
Fine within a couple hours. I had a tooth extracted when I was around that age. Local anesthesia, my mouth felt funny for a bit til it wore off, and otherwise it was no different than just losing a tooth. My 7 year old had a couple fillings recently – a few shots of novocaine, some laughing gas, and he immediately went back to school. The dentist advised not to eat or drink until the numbness wore off to avoid him potentially biting his cheek, but otherwise the recovery time is hours, not days.
Anon says
Ugh aftercare has “Christmas week” this week and my Jewish kid is feeling sad. (Also weird timing because Hanukkah is happening now, and school is in session through Friday 12/22, which is much closer to Christmas…). I know some people think labeling things “holiday” or “winter” over Christmas is meaningless and performative, but as someone who doesn’t celebrate that holiday we appreciate the more inclusive labeling. The classroom teacher did “winter party” and dance did “holiday recital” and even though there were Santa and trees at both, it meant a lot to my kid that she wasn’t expressly excluded.
Cerulean says
That’s so frustrating. It amazes me that some people are so thoughtless about this. My kid’s daycare at a Lutheran church did stories and crafts for a variety of winter holidays. It’s not hard to be inclusive!
AwayEmily says
That is really irritating. I’m sorry.
Anon says
That’s ridiculous to me unless it’s a Christian affiliated day care. Even as someone who celebrates Christmas. I’d complain
More Sleep Would Be Nice says
I’m a Hindu that celebrates a seci;ar Christmas and I’m with you. I think you should say something, at least so it does not happen again. I’m sure the intent wasn’t to exclude, but the result is that people feel excluded.
I sometimes catch myself reverting to the 90’s phrases I grew up with (e.g. “Christmas break” vs. “Winter break”). I love that it is more inclusive now because my “Christmas” (now “holiday”, thankfully) growing up looked a lot different than most of my classmates.
Tongue tie says
Anyone have experience getting a tongue tie corrected (or opting not to) when the child was not a baby?
Our pediatric dentist raised concerns about our daughter’s tongue tie. She’s 3 years old, did not have any problems nursing or eating any type of solid food, speaks well although with some toddler speech-isms, and sucks her thumb like it is a part time job. We’re in wait and see mode for now, but curious about others’ experience.
anon says
I’m skeptical of the procedure unless a speech language pathologist or pediatrician notes some harm that could be remedied by the surgery.
My kids’ pediatric dentist said nothing for years and then tried to recommend tongue tie snipping for both of them as soon as the practice got a nifty expensive laser that allowed them to do the procedure quickly.
Anon says
I’m also skeptical of it. In our case it was recommended by an OT as possibly related to picky eating. I asked our ped and our dentist and they both said it wasn’t necessary and wasn’t causing her to be picky, so we didn’t do it.
octagon says
If there aren’t any concerns with feeding or speaking, I’d wait. We had my kid’s released as an infant because he couldn’t latch at all. Then it grew back — rare but it happens — and we had to have it released again when he was 5 and it was impacting speech and dental development. FWIW, it’s a really quick procedure with an easy recovery, if you find yourself needing to do that.
AwayEmily says
Yesterday I overheard my 7yo trying to explain who Jesus was to her 5yo brother (who had heard the name in a carol on the radio).
“A long time ago there was this woman, Mary, and she was, like, a god. And then she had a baby and when the baby came there was this SUPER BRIGHT star. It was so so bright. And then the baby was born and there were all these animals and they were really happy. And the baby’s name was Jesus Christ.”
And then recognition dawns for the 5yo: “”OHHHH. Is that the same person as ‘Jesus Christ!” [said, pitch-perfect, in the tone that you say it when someone cuts you off at a stop sign or you drop a cutting board on your toe]”
Anon says
Hahahaha omg this is hilarious!!
NYCer says
LOL!
CCLA says
This is amazing, thanks for sharing
Anonymous says
This is amazing.
The kids in Sunday school at our church drew pictures of Mary and Joseph on their way to Bethlehem and they are hilarious. One of them is captioned “Mary had a hard day and doesn’t feel too well so she is lying on a pillow and Joseph is bringing her stuff.” Way to go, Joseph.
Anonymous says
I’m dead. Thank you so much for sharing this.